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UMichBirders for Friday, May 2, 2008

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 [birders] Junco and a bald-Headed  bflylady27@netzero.n  12:31am 
 [birders] RE: hair tearing  CJ McDonald  2:27am 
 [birders] Time in the field (was Hair tearing)  Julie Craves   6:26am 
 [birders] gt crested flycathcer  keitay(AT)umich.edu  8:12am 
 [birders] Re: unusual visitors to feeders  theduckpen(AT)att.net  12:37pm 
 [birders] Baltimore Oriole  mszedenits   9:11am 
 [birders] Re: Bald Red-Wing Blackbird  mszedenits   10:00am 
 [birders] Cassidy road at Dusk; Blue Jay (Jay! Jay! Jay!) invasion  Dave Sing   10:01am 
 [birders] Re: Brewster's Warbler Crosswinds Marsh  mck426(AT)comcast.net  2:03pm 
 [birders] Re: field guides  Barbara Fiddes   7:24am 
 [birders] Re: Time in the field (was Hair tearing)  Dave Sing   10:36am 
 [birders] Yardbirds  Fred Kaluza   7:39am 
 [birders] White-eyed Vireo - Hamburg Twp.  John Lowry   10:54am 
 [birders] Am. Bittern & Ovenbird Canton Yardbirds!  ANDREW DETTLING   8:39am 
 [birders] Dearborn birds; another Summer Tanager  Julie Craves   12:13pm 
 [birders] Re: field guides  Paul S. Wolberg  12:15pm 
 [birders] Canton & Kalamazoo  Bruce McCulloch  12:25pm 
 [birders] Traffic Updates for Crane Creek and Point Pelee  Ray Stocking  1:10pm 
 [birders] birds and biofuels---seeking corn!  Bruce Robertson  1:24pm 
 [birders] Peregrine Falcons in Downtown Jackson  Don Henise  1:31pm 
 [birders] Re: unusual visitors to feeders  kjser  1:54pm 
 [birders] Cerulean Warbler, Waterloo SRA, Washtenaw Co. 5/2  Dan Sparks-Jackson  2:06pm 
 [birders] Re: Hearing issues (was Re: hair tearing)  Russell Emmons  2:07pm 
 [birders] Pheasant  mszedenits   2:12pm 
 [birders] Crane Creek today  Joseph W. Brown  2:59pm 
 [birders] Crane Creek, May 1  Bruce M. Bowman  3:25pm 
 [birders] Re: Traffic Updates for Crane Creek and Point Pelee  pavlik(AT)comcast.net  7:46pm 
 [birders] Nesting Hooded Mergansers -Southern Jackson County  bflylady27@netzero.n  7:55pm 
 [birders] Green heron, Rochester Hills  Janice E. Olesen  4:09pm 
 [birders] OT: Don't Always Root for the Hawk  Bob Tarte   5:02pm 
 [birders] Re: FW: hair tearing  Allen T. Chartier  5:32pm 
 [birders] RE: hair tearing  Bruce M. Bowman  5:46pm 
 [birders] Re: FW: hair tearing  Bruce M. Bowman  6:03pm 
 [birders] Another challenging hawk  Matthew Valencic  6:08pm 
 [birders] Re: FW: hair tearing  Allen T. Chartier  6:23pm 
 [birders] Worm-eating Warbler still present at American Center Marsh  Allen T. Chartier  6:33pm 
 [birders] FW: [Ontbirds]Mottled Duck, Hillman Marsh at 8:20pm  Nathan Crawford   10:30pm 
 [birders] lights out in Jackson  Pat Burden   11:09pm 
 [birders] Re: lights out in Jackson  Sally K Scheer  11:31pm 
 [birders] Superior Twp. after 6:00 - Bobolinks! Harrier! Sora! Treefrogs!  CJ McDonald  11:34pm 
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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Junco and a bald-Headed From: "bflylady27(AT)netzero.net" <bflylady27@netzero.net> Date: 2 May 2008 12:31am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- I still have a junco and also a bald-headed male red-wing blackbird. Co= nnie _____________________________________________________________ Learn to trade futures online and make extra money. Click here to learn = more! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4tFGhU0zI5lZq4WX51B= 8qtgZVhBWLcbC2KBKx9FY9PS3b2Nq/?count=3D1234567890 --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] RE: hair tearing From: "CJ McDonald" <cjmcd77(AT)comcast.net> Date: 2 May 2008 2:27am This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Cendra, The more I bird, and watch other birders, the more I think that luck, patience and skill are all elements of one thing. It takes a lot of time watching birds to get good at identifying them. And the more comfident one becomes with identifying common birds, the more easily he'll notice something out of place. Many people expect to walk outside and see replicas of the pictures in their field guides, which don't exist. There is no piece of gear, no magical field guide, no shortcut to spending a lot of time actually watching birds and getting to know them. The people who know the most and more easily identify more birds under difficult conditions, are the people who have put in the most time learning how to do it. So, when one of those people has a rare bird perch in front of them, don't curse your bad luck, but wonder instead if you would have recognized it if it had landed in front of you. Have you spent the time studying hundreds or thousands of the common birds that the rare one resembles, so you're ready to make the right call in that moment? I can tell you from observing really good birders through the years that they're usually not the ones talking about their birding exploits, but the quiet ones with their binoculars aimed at something. I love the Branch Rickey (Brooklyn Dodgers GM) quote, "Luck is the residue of design." It fits a lot of situations, including this one. Determine to learn the birds one encounter at a time, spend as much time in the field as possible, and try to learn habits and habitats as well as physical traits. Forget spending more on equipment until what you're using is holding you back. And expect branches and leaves, the sun, insects, hot and cold weather, and everything else in nature to challenge you constantly. As for bird photography, I don't do it anymore. After I saw Andreas Kanon walk out of LeFurge Woods covered with mud in mid-March, and he told me he had been stretched out in the frozen swamp to get pictures of Red-winged Blackbirds, I figured I'd stick with watching them -- especially since my photos would never be as good as his. I'm just not committed enough to be really good at it, and if I'm not really good, why not just look at someone else's pictures? Check out www.kanonphoto.com for a really excellent confluence of luck, patience, skill and equipment. Jim McDonald Ypsilanti _____ From: Allen T. Chartier [mailto:amazilia1(AT)comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:10 AM To: birders(AT)umich.edu Subject: [birders] Re: FW: hair tearing Cendra, As you'll discover as you get more into our shared obsession, birding requires luck (50%), patience (25%), skill (15%), and equipment (10%). Allen T. Chartier amazilia1(AT)comcast.net Inkster, Michigan, USA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Website: www.amazilia.net HummerNet: www.amazilia.net/MIHummerNet Blog: http://mihummingbirdguy.blogspot.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Every day, the hummingbird eats its own weight in food. You may wonder how it weighs the food. It doesn't. It just eats another hummingbird. -- Steven Wright ========================================= ----- Original Message ----- From: Cendra <mailto:cendra(AT)digitalrealm.net> To: birders(AT)umich.edu Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 12:49 AM Subject: [birders] Re: FW: hair tearing Oh, come on! Birds don't hold still long enough to sort all that out!! I'm still upset about the sparrows, which I thought was one species. I finally saw one that held still long enough for me to memorize its patterns, and of course it fits nothing in the bird book! Everything else flies into a tree directly behind another branch, or lands in a great position for me to view it for about one second, or is placed so I have to look directly into the sun. Seriously, I think some of you are making this up! And the ones of you who get those amazing photographs must have some kind of special power that gets the bird to hold still long enough for you to get it in focus. That one a few days back that was taken of a wood duck through a maze of branches just blew me away. Clearly some people on this list either have great imaginations or special gifts. The Muggle Birder, Cendra Lynn OWS, A2 --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Time in the field (was Hair tearing) From: Julie Craves <jcraves(AT)umd.umich.edu> Date: 2 May 2008 6:26am I certainly agree with Jim. There is no substitute for being in the field, or in fishing parlance, "line time in the water." (Also applicable is Wayne Gretsky's quote, "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.") I'd add to that, you also have to be really patient, and slow down. Every year, after posting the various birds seen at UM-Dearborn on a survey, I get complaints from people who seem to not quite believe me (or whomever was doing the daily survey) because they couldn't find the same birds. My survey route is a less than a mile roughly around the lake on campus. Even when there are only a few birds around, it takes me nearly an hour. I do a lot of standing, and when I'm moving, I'm going very slowly. Finally, rather than miraculous electronic field guides, we might take a cue from many Europeans or Brits, who don't take a field guide in the field, but only a notebook. They take copious notes and make sketches, and work from there to later identify birds. It forces one to really look at and learn about birds, including behavior and variations in plumage. It's completely worthwhile to do this even with common birds. There's always something to learn, if not appreciate. I've read an account Kenn Kaufman wrote about birding with Rich Stallcup and some others. Rich was on a bird, which the others looked at briefly and were then impatient to move on to find "better" birds. "C'mon, Rich," they said, "You've seen a million American Redstarts." "Yes," Rich replied, "but I've never seen THIS one." > Cendra, > > The more I bird, and watch other birders, the more I think that luck, > patience and skill are all elements of one thing. It takes a lot of time > watching birds to get good at identifying them. And the more comfident one > becomes with identifying common birds, the more easily he'll notice > something out of place. Many people expect to walk outside and see replicas > of the pictures in their field guides, which don't exist. > > There is no piece of gear, no magical field guide, no shortcut to spending a > lot of time actually watching birds and getting to know them. The people > who know the most and more easily identify more birds under difficult > conditions, are the people who have put in the most time learning how to do > it. So, when one of those people has a rare bird perch in front of them, > don't curse your bad luck, but wonder instead if you would have recognized > it if it had landed in front of you. Have you spent the time studying > hundreds or thousands of the common birds that the rare one resembles, so > you're ready to make the right call in that moment? > > I can tell you from observing really good birders through the years that > they're usually not the ones talking about their birding exploits, but the > quiet ones with their binoculars aimed at something. > > I love the Branch Rickey (Brooklyn Dodgers GM) quote, "Luck is the residue > of design." It fits a lot of situations, including this one. Determine to > learn the birds one encounter at a time, spend as much time in the field as > possible, and try to learn habits and habitats as well as physical traits. > Forget spending more on equipment until what you're using is holding you > back. And expect branches and leaves, the sun, insects, hot and cold > weather, and everything else in nature to challenge you constantly. > > As for bird photography, I don't do it anymore. After I saw Andreas Kanon > walk out of LeFurge Woods covered with mud in mid-March, and he told me he > had been stretched out in the frozen swamp to get pictures of Red-winged > Blackbirds, I figured I'd stick with watching them -- especially since my > photos would never be as good as his. I'm just not committed enough to be > really good at it, and if I'm not really good, why not just look at someone > else's pictures? Check out www.kanonphoto.com for a really excellent > confluence of luck, patience, skill and equipment. > > Jim McDonald > Ypsilanti -- Julie A. Craves Rouge River Bird Observatory University of Michigan-Dearborn http://www.rrbo.org --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] gt crested flycathcer From: keitay(AT)umich.edu Date: 2 May 2008 8:12am Species moving through the backyard here on the west side of Ann Arbor. But a Great Crested Flycatcher working the oak trees seems just a bit on the early side. Keith T. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: unusual visitors to feeders From: theduckpen(AT)att.net Date: 2 May 2008 12:37pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Harry, We had an overwintering YR Warbler this past season (in eastern Kent County), and I saw the bird on two different suet feeders behind our house. But mostly it would eat the suet 'crumbles' that had fallen to the ground. -- Bob Tarte, author of "Fowl Weather" Info and photos at: www.bobtarte.com -------------- Original message from "Harry and Elnora Wallin" <owltalker(AT)centurytel.net>: -------------- Greetings all, A couple of weeks ago, when the weather was on the cool side, we had a Yellow-Rumped Warbler feeding from our suet cake. I'd never heard of that before. Today, twice, we have had an Indigo Bunting feeding from our thistle feeder. Is this something others have experienced, or do we just have wierd birds here? Harry Wallin Sunfield Township, Northwest corner of Eaton County, MI--- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED multipart/related MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Baltimore Oriole From: mszedenits <mszedenits(AT)gmail.com> Date: 2 May 2008 9:11am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Just saw a Baltimore Oriole at my hummingbird feeder. Margaret Prospect near Ford Superior Township, Washtenaw County --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: Bald Red-Wing Blackbird From: mszedenits <mszedenits(AT)gmail.com> Date: 2 May 2008 10:00am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- I went poking around and found this article about bald birds. http://www.birds.cornell.edu/pfw/AboutBirdsandFeeding/BaldBirds.htm Margaret On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 7:15 PM, mszedenits <mszedenits(AT)gmail.com> wrote: > One of the red-wing blackbirds at my feeders has a bald head. Is some > kind of mite? Should I be worried about the other birds at the feeders? > > Thanks, > Margaret Szedenits > Prospect near Ford > Superior Township, Washtenaw County > --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html<http://www.umich.edu/%7Ebbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html>;* photo sharing site - > http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html<http://www.umich.edu/%7Ebbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html>;* To unsubscribe from > birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.eduwith UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE > BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Cassidy road at Dusk; Blue Jay (Jay! Jay! Jay!) invasion From: Dave Sing <dsing(AT)umich.edu> Date: 2 May 2008 10:01am Howdy. Did a slow drive down Cassidy with numerous stops at dusk last night. Really nice variety, only moderate numbers. At the Wintergreen Park watched the resident Pileateds at the old roost tree having a head-bobbing and neck-waving party, accompanied by a host of singing birds, including Wood thrush, Towhee, Rose-breasted grosbeak, first Scarlet T. (Chick! burrrr), Yellow warbler, Hooded, Blue-wing, Pine, first American redstart, slews of gnatcatchers and the occasional mad gobble of Wild turkey. As dusk fell Barred owls began to bark at each other, stopping to ask who was cooking. At the old ponds (north side along the esker) there were singing Common yellowthroats and a Purple finch, along with a pair of Hooded mergansers and a Kingfisher. Lots of birds in the lower canopy were flashing by unidentified in the gloaming. Yesterday afternoon and again this morning the yard and environs in Chelsea have been basically mobbed with small groups of Blue jays, all talky and loud. One bird is doing a perfect Broad-winged hawk; lots of the morse code/monkey talk and various whistles and grunts, and the emphatic titular calls clanging through the treetops. Nothing new otherwise in the yard this morning. And best of all perhaps was a single male Chestnut-sided warbler foraging the flowering Redbud trees right in front of Taubman/Med Sci II as I walked to the office ~9AM. He was right at head height and allowed for a real close look, completely nonplussed by the whir of human activity all around it. Hooray! It's May! DBS Chelsea MI --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: Brewster's Warbler Crosswinds Marsh From: mck426(AT)comcast.net Date: 2 May 2008 2:03pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- I need some help here. What is a Brewster's Warbler? I couldn't find him in the Sibley. Is this bird the Blue-winged/Golden-winged product? -- Mary Attitude is a choice. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Daryl & Gail Aspery" <gr8gray(AT)wowway.com> I had a great look at a Brewster's Warbler this evening at the intersection of the bald eagle and blue heron trail --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: field guides From: Barbara Fiddes <nuthatch45(AT)yahoo.com> Date: 2 May 2008 7:24am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- I just picked up a couple of used guides from www.textbooks.com to give to my niece. Other than a big yellow USED sticker that peels off, the books are current and like new. (Sibley, Peterson, ) are $9, free shipping Barb South Lyon --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: Time in the field (was Hair tearing) From: Dave Sing <dsing(AT)umich.edu> Date: 2 May 2008 10:36am Julie; That's it exactly. DBS At 06:26 AM 5/2/2008, Julie Craves wrote: >"C'mon, Rich," they said, "You've seen a million American Redstarts." > >"Yes," Rich replied, "but I've never seen THIS one." --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Yardbirds From: Fred Kaluza <fkaluza(AT)yahoo.com> Date: 2 May 2008 7:39am I also have a balding Red-Winged Blackbird that's been here for a couple weeks anyway. Yesterday, had the first Chipping Sparrow and today...first Rose-Breasted Grosbeak and half a dozen White-Crowned Sparrows. Meanwhile...thousands of American Toad pollywogs have sprouted in the pond in the last week! Although seemingly remarkably adept at avoiding drying areas, I noticed (and felt bad) for a couple that were struggling in little damp pockets of mud. That's nature in action. If they all lived it would not be natural either. Fred in Warren --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] White-eyed Vireo - Hamburg Twp. From: John Lowry <john(AT)kingbird.org> Date: 2 May 2008 10:54am Birders, White-eyed Vireo was a new yard bird this morning among the many new arrivals (big push overnight - can't wait to hear what was recorded at the hotspots!). The bird has been calling steadily from the roadside at the bend just before my house (11606 Centennial Dr). Also noted (seen or heard): Blue-headed Vireo Magnolia Warbler Blue-winged Warbler Black-throated Green Warbler Yellow Warbler plus the residents... Also, Sean Bachman had a very brief look at what may have been a female Summer Tanager in the same location this morning. He wasn't convinced, but the description doesn't leave much else as a possibility. I hope you are/were able to get out this morning. It was hopping! Good birding! John Lowry john(AT)kingbird.org Hamburg Twp. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Am. Bittern & Ovenbird Canton Yardbirds! From: ANDREW DETTLING <dendroica(AT)sbcglobal.net> Date: 2 May 2008 8:39am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Hello, I was in the pond in my backyard looking for migrants and found an OVENBIRD singing, a new yard bird and FOY for me. On the way out I was watching a SOLITARY SANDPIPER and as I tracked it flying, it directed me to an AMERICAN BITTERN right in my small pond/marsh! How exciting! I might have even gotten a bird that the holy Julie Craves' yard has not seen. I was able to get some poor pictures as well. I second Julie's comments about getting out in the field, where ever you can, even if it isn't a great location. Birds have wings and can go where ever they choose! Andy Dettling Canton, MI --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Dearborn birds; another Summer Tanager From: Julie Craves <jcraves(AT)umd.umich.edu> Date: 2 May 2008 12:13pm A nice day today, not huge numbers, but new arrivals and nice variety. I had 62 species. A beautiful (but silent) male Summer Tanager was in the first garden by the Fairlane Estate patio. There was also the first Cape May Warbler of spring in the same location. Other first-of-season species were Least Flycatcher, Indigo Bunting, and Lincoln's Sparrow. Blue Jays were really on the move. I had over 200, and most of the time I did not have a clear view of the sky. Many more orioles and catbirds as well. -- Julie A. Craves Rouge River Bird Observatory University of Michigan-Dearborn Dearborn, MI 48128 http://www.rrbo.org --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: field guides From: "Paul S. Wolberg" <pswolberg(AT)comcast.net> Date: 2 May 2008 12:15pm This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- I just checked www.textbooks.com <http://www.textbooks.com>, the price was $11 plus $4.99 shipping, $15.99, for a used book. Amazon <http://www.amazon.com/Sibley-Field-Guide-Eastern-America/dp/067945120X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1209744514&sr=1-2> is $13.57 plus $3.99 shipping, $17.56, for a new one. Free shipping at textbooks.com is only on orders of $25 or more, same at Amazon. I'm not trying to shill for Amazon, just thought folks might want to know - for an extra $1.57 you can get a new copy. Barbara Fiddes wrote: > I just picked up a couple of used guides from www.textbooks.com > <http://www.textbooks.com> to give to my niece. > > Other than a big yellow USED sticker that peels off, the books are > current and like new. > > (Sibley, Peterson, ) are $9, free shipping > > Barb > South Lyon > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try > it now. > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ%20> > --- * birders FAQ - > http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing > site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To > unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to > lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject > line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Canton & Kalamazoo From: "Bruce McCulloch" <flavus94(AT)yahoo.com> Date: 2 May 2008 12:25pm I was in Kalamazoo for most of the week. With an eleven month old daughter who sleeps until 8:30, I decided to stay local to minmize travel times. Anyway, on April 29, the K. Nature Center was a bit slow, but two of the three warbler species were Lousiana waterthrush and prothonotary (the other was yellow-rumped). Yesterday, the waterthrush and yellow-rumped were still there along with Nashville, blue-winged, black-throated green, yellow, ovenbird, and common yellowthroat. This morning in the protected area behind the house in Canton: ovenbird, Nashville, black-throated green,and yellow, along with a singing wood thrush!! BRM, Canton --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Traffic Updates for Crane Creek and Point Pelee From: "Ray Stocking" <rstocking(AT)gmail.com> Date: 2 May 2008 1:10pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Birders, Two important traffic updates I received today will impact both Point Pelee and Crane Creek birders this weekend and into next week: Crane Creek: I-75 South from I-280 will be closed or have significant delays this weekend. This will impact those who use US-23 North to get home. Alternate route should be I-75 North to I-275. I tried checking to Google for more details but they just don't have a good site with additional details that I could see. I heard this on WJR this morning. Just beware and plan ahead. Point Pelee: (From MDOT) Beginning at 7 a.m. on Monday, May 5 and ending at 7 p.m. on Friday, May 9, crews will close the eastbound I-96 slip ramp to the Ambassador Bridge, and from the Ambassador Bridge to northbound I-75. The closure is necessary for bridge work in the area. Traffic to the Ambassador Bridge will be directed to the West Service Drive to West Grand Blvd. Traffic leaving the Ambassador Bridge will be detoured to Bagley to Rosa Parks to northbound I-75. I would appreciate any updates on both drives form those who trek to either locations within the next week. Thanks, Ray --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] birds and biofuels---seeking corn! From: "Bruce Robertson" <roberba1(AT)msu.edu> Date: 2 May 2008 1:24pm This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Dear Birders, I want to thank all of those who responded to our request for research sites for our project looking at the biodiversity consequences of biofuels crops. Thank you all for your tolerance of this message on the listserv as well. We are finding more prairie and switchgrass sites (but still short). However, we have neglected to find corn fields of sufficient size (>40 acres). If any of you folks happen to know farmers who are growing corn this season in patches of this size, especially if they are in SW and south-central Michigan, we would be very grateful for any contacts or advice. The outreach flier for the project describing the scope of our activity at study sites follows this message. I can tell you that I will certainly keep a keen eye out for rare birds this summer and that I won't bother this listserv again with these requests.. Thank you and good birding, Bruce Robertson Postdoctoral Fellow W.K. Kellogg Biological Station Michigan State University 3700 East Gull Lake Drive Hickory Corners, MI 49060 <mailto:roberba1(AT)msu.edu> roberba1(AT)msu.edu <mailto:brucerobertson(AT)hotmail.com> brucerobertson(AT)hotmail.com 206-718-9172 (cell) 269-671-4485 (FAX) MSU Biofuel Research: Can Cellulosic Ethanol Crops Enhance Conservation? Cellulosic ethanol production promises greatly increased energy efficiency and could be a win-win for farmers, soil and water conservation, wildlife, and the environment. Michigan State University researchers are examining how different biofuels crops may affect conservation outcomes. They are studying the impact of potential biofuels crops on song and game bird numbers, beneficial insects, and soil microbes. They are currently looking for sites throughout southern Michigan to conduct these studies. Ideal sites would have a pure (or nearly pure) stand of switchgrass, a mixed grass and wildflower planting (for example a mixed prairie, CRP or Pheasants Forever type planting) and a nearby conventional corn field. Ideally, each would be at least 5 acres in size and within 2 miles of each other. The switchgrass and mixed prairie stands should be well established, i.e. at least 3 years old. From May to October a small team of researchers will periodically visit each site to survey bird, insect and soil microbe communities. They anticipate about 12 visits to each field during the year. All information will be kept confidential and landowners will not be identified without prior permission. If you or someone you know has questions about the project or might be interested in participating, please contact Lauren Bailey (517) 432-5282 e-mail: bailey65(AT)msu.edu. Or Bruce Robertson: roberba1(AT)msu.edu MSU Biofuel Research: Can Cellulosic Ethanol Crops Enhance Conservation? Ethanol and biodiesel produced from plant materials, called biofuels, are increasingly in the news these days. Most ethanol in the US is currently produced from corn grain; however, new technologies are coming on-line to produce ethanol from cellulosic plant materials (stalks, leaves, woody stems etc.). Cellulosic ethanol production promises greatly increased energy efficiency and could be a win-win for farmers, soil and water conservation, wildlife, and the environment. With funding from the Great Lakes Bioenergy Research Center, Michigan State University is examining how different biofuels crops may affect conservation outcomes. We are studying the impact of corn, switchgrass and mixed stands of prairie grasses and wildflowers on bird, insect and microbial communities. We believe that well chosen biofuel crops could enhance song and game bird numbers, increase numbers of beneficial insects and favor soil microbes that help reduce greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. We Need Your Help Locating Research Sites We are currently looking for sites throughout southern Michigan to conduct these studies. Ideal sites would have a pure (or nearly pure) stand of switchgrass, a mixed grass and wildflower planting (for example a prairie restoration, CRP or Pheasants Forever type planting) and a nearby conventional corn field. Ideally, each field should be at least 5 acres in size, and be within 2 miles of each other. The switchgrass and mixed prairie stands should be well established, i.e. at least 3 years old. Sampling Procedures From May to October a team of 4-5 MSU researchers will periodically visit the site to conduct surveys of bird, insect and soil microbe communities. Bird sampling will consist of counts of singing and nesting birds, insects will be sampled by passive sticky and bowl traps, and microbes by taking 1 inch soil cores. We anticipate 12 visits to each field during the year. In the fall we will harvest several small areas (about 2 square yards in size) to determine the amount of plant material produced above ground. All information will be kept confidential and landowners will not be identified without prior permission. If you or someone you know has questions about the project or might be interested in participating, please contact Lauren Bailey (517) 432-5282 e-mail: bailey65(AT)msu.edu. Project Team Dr. Doug Landis, Entomology, Dr. Doug Schemske, Plant Biology, Dr. Tom Schmidt, Microbiology, Mary Gardiner, Research Associate, Lauren Bailey, Research Assistant. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Peregrine Falcons in Downtown Jackson From: "Don Henise" <don_henise(AT)ntm.org> Date: 2 May 2008 1:31pm This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- When Connie Spots and Nancy Lapinski were working on the lights out project for downtown Jackson, they heard "rumors" that there was a Peregrine Falcon hanging around. On our way through downtown this morning we searched the buildings and found not 1, but 2 Peregrine Falcons sitting way up near the top of the 17 story Jackson County Tower Building at 120 West Michigan Avenue: (http://www.co.jackson.mi.us/departments/facilities/Tower.asp)=20 =20 The birds were sitting on the north side of the building, one on the northwest corner and one near the northeast corner. =20 I've uploaded a couple of poor pictures to my Grove Street site. =20 http://www.grovestreet.com/PicPage.do?id=3D1270093=20 =20 http://www.grovestreet.com/PicPage.do?id=3D1270094=20 =20 =20 =20 Don Henise =20 Librarian New Tribes Bible Institute Jackson, MI don_henise(AT)ntm.org =20 --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: unusual visitors to feeders From: "kjser" <kjser(AT)sbcglobal.net> Date: 2 May 2008 1:54pm This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Yeap, had a male & female YR nibbling at the suet crumbles that drop onto my deck railing for last 2 days. Fun to watch Karen in Livonia -----Original Message----- From: theduckpen(AT)att.net [mailto:theduckpen(AT)att.net] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 8:38 AM To: birders(AT)umich.edu Cc: Opa Max Roha; John & Mary Wallin; Joshua Wallin; Pete Wallin Subject: [birders] Re: unusual visitors to feeders Harry, We had an overwintering YR Warbler this past season (in eastern Kent County), and I saw the bird on two different suet feeders behind our house. But mostly it would eat the suet 'crumbles' that had fallen to the ground. -- Bob Tarte, author of "Fowl Weather" Info and photos at: www.bobtarte.com -------------- Original message from "Harry and Elnora Wallin" <owltalker(AT)centurytel.net>: -------------- Greetings all, A couple of weeks ago, when the weather was on the cool side, we had a Yellow-Rumped Warbler feeding from our suet cake. I'd never heard of that before. Today, twice, we have had an Indigo Bunting feeding from our thistle feeder. Is this something others have experienced, or do we just have wierd birds here? Harry Wallin Sunfield Township, Northwest corner of Eaton County, MI --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Cerulean Warbler, Waterloo SRA, Washtenaw Co. 5/2 From: "Dan Sparks-Jackson" <sparksjackson(AT)aol.com> Date: 2 May 2008 2:06pm At least one singing male Cerulean Warbler has returned to the 'Sylvan Springs' valley along McClure Road west of the WSRA HQ. He was singing up a storm and offering decent views (albeit in so-so lighting) this morning. The leaves seem to be coming out early this spring, and this process will likely accellerate thanks to today's rain, so unobstructed views of these treetop denizens is a limited-time opportunity. Other migrants detected at this locale and/or the Discovery Center included: Blackburnian, Nashvilles, N. Waterthrush, Black-throated Greens, Black & Whites, Blue-winged, Palms, Yellow, and Yellow-rumped Warblers, Ovenbirds, Common Yellowthroats, and Blue-headed Vireos. Dan S-J p.s. I was delighted to discover a second Sandhill Crane hatchling ambling along with the parents and sibling at my workplace today. I completely missed the second lil feller yesterday despite multiple investigations. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: Hearing issues (was Re: hair tearing) From: "Russell Emmons" <birdeland(AT)pasty.net> Date: 2 May 2008 2:07pm Eric: At my age I can appreciate and agree with your serious comments here. I rate hearing, sight, and general good health right at the top of the list. Up there also has to be time constraints---ie: work, business, family issues. Being at the right place at the right time also high up. (that could be classed under skill and luck both!) As for equipment, in that I would include vehicle, financial and other resources. Much of that could be compensated though by the stated skill, luck, patience, and good health! Most of my "equipment" would be considered sub-par so at this point in my life I know upgrade would definetly help! High-tech, Highly efficient equipment would of course then compensate for diminished health, sight, hearing, time, but not necessarily for skill, luck, and patience! I agree hard work does make "luck'----up to a point! Thereafter circumstances (such as above health, sight, hearing, resources, and equipment) are limiting!) So as Eric states about appreciating good hearing, I would add, eyesight, health, time, and resources! Not all are fortunate but still are motivated to do the best they can nevertheless with what they have! Russ Emmons, St. Clair county ----- Original Message ----- From: <eba(AT)umich.edu> To: <birders(AT)umich.edu> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:01 PM Subject: [birders] Hearing issues (was Re: hair tearing) > The hearing issue is one that I find particularly frustrating. I have > enough hearing loss that I miss a lot, and it certainly reduces what I am > able to find when I'm out on the woods or fields. I've got hearing aids > which I use sometimes; I even have a mode which I use particularly for > detecting bird calls, but they also are excellent in detecting airplanes, > helicopters, road traffic, construction equipment (really significant in > the Arb right now) and wind & waves -- at least, when they're working. > When they're not, they're worse than a nuisance, and I leave them at home. > Unfortunately, there isn't much that the medical world can do for folks > with hearing loss yet, other than provide these rather finicky gadgets, > and unfortunately, medical insurance isn't very good at covering the > initial cost and maintenance in this country. So I just do as well as I > can with the sensitivity that remains. I'm still learning new calls, but > it's a much slower process since I don't hear them as well or as often, > and I miss lots of opportunities to find birds that I might otherwise have > a chance of seeing. > > What I can't understand is these folks walking or running through the Arb > with earphones plugged into their ears, replacing the natural sounds with > some other stuff that they could hear anyplace else where there aren't > natural sounds to appreciate. What a waste! If you have good hearing, > appreciate it! When you lose it, there isn't very much you can do about > it except to try to adapt. > > Eric Arnold > Ann Arbor > > > > --On Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:04 PM -0400 "Bruce M. Bowman" > <bbowman99(AT)comcast.net> wrote: > >> Allen- >> >> I can't agree with you there. Birding skills are learned through >> spending a lot of time in the field (etc., etc.). Good eyesight and good >> hearing are things you have or you don't have. Yes :-), I guess you >> could say eyes and ears are equipment, but in that case you'd need to up >> that 10% equipment weight considerably--to 50%? 75%? (And I'd cut that >> 50% luck weight down to about 5%. In birding, as in so many things, the >> people who work hard make their own "luck.") >> >> Bruce >> >> From: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1(AT)comcast.net> >> To: birders(AT)umich.edu >> Copies to: <birders(AT)umich.edu> >> Subject: [birders] Re: FW: hair tearing >> Date sent: Thu, 1 May 2008 21:37:54 -0400 >> Send reply to: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1(AT)comcast.net> >> >>> Bruce, >>> >>> I think those are subsets of "skill", or perhaps "equipment" :-) >>> >>> Allen T. Chartier >>> amazilia1(AT)comcast.net >>> Inkster, Michigan, USA >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> -- --- Website: www.amazilia.net HummerNet: www.amazilia.net/MIHummerNet >>> Blog: http://mihummingbirdguy.blogspot.com >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> -- --- Every day, the hummingbird eats its own weight in food. You may >>> wonder how it weighs the food. It doesn't. It just eats another >>> hummingbird. -- Steven Wright ========================================= >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Bruce M. Bowman" <bbowman99(AT)comcast.net> >>> To: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1(AT)comcast.net> >>> Cc: <birders(AT)umich.edu> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 8:49 PM >>> Subject: Re: [birders] Re: FW: hair tearing >>> >>> >>> > Allen- >>> > >>> > You left out keen senses! Good eyesight and good hearing. >>> > >>> > Bruce >>> > >>> > >>> > From: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1(AT)comcast.net> >>> > To: birders(AT)umich.edu >>> > Subject: [birders] Re: FW: hair tearing >>> > Date sent: Thu, 1 May 2008 11:09:50 -0400 >>> > Send reply to: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1(AT)comcast.net> >>> > >>> >> Cendra, >>> >> >>> >> As you'll discover as you get more into our shared obsession, birding >>> >> requires luck (50%), patience (25%), skill (15%), and equipment >>> >> (10%). >>> >> >>> >> Allen T. Chartier >>> >> amazilia1(AT)comcast.net >>> >> Inkster, Michigan, USA >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> -- --- --- Website: www.amazilia.net HummerNet: >>> >> www.amazilia.net/MIHummerNet Blog: >>> >> http://mihummingbirdguy.blogspot.com >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> -- --- --- Every day, the hummingbird eats its own weight in food. >>> >> You may wonder how it weighs the food. It doesn't. It just eats >>> >> another hummingbird. -- Steven Wright >>> >> ========================================= >>> >> >>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >> From: Cendra >>> >> To: birders(AT)umich.edu >>> >> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 12:49 AM >>> >> Subject: [birders] Re: FW: hair tearing >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Oh, come on! Birds don't hold still long enough to sort all that >>> >> out!! I'm still upset about the sparrows, which I thought was one >>> >> species. I finally saw one that held still long enough for me to >>> >> memorize its patterns, and of course it fits nothing in the bird >>> >> book! Everything else flies into a tree directly behind another >>> >> branch, or lands in a great position for me to view it for about >>> >> one >>> >> second, or is placed so >>> >> I >>> >> have to look directly into the sun. >>> >> >>> >> Seriously, I think some of you are making this up! And the ones of >>> >> you who get those amazing photographs must have some kind of >>> >> special >>> >> power that gets the bird to hold still long enough for you to get >>> >> it >>> >> in >>> >> focus. >>> >> That one a few days back that was taken of a wood duck through a >>> >> maze >>> >> of branches just blew me away. Clearly some people on this list >>> >> either have great imaginations or special gifts. >>> >> >>> >> The Muggle Birder, >>> >> Cendra Lynn >>> >> OWS, A2 >>> >> >>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >> From: Russell Emmons >>> >> To: Sally K Scheer >>> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:08 PM >>> >> Subject: Re: [birders] Re: FW: hair tearing >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> And to confuse things even more there is the similiar Brewers >>> >> Blackbird with also differences in male and female and both have >>> >> plumage differences in breeding and winter! Rustys' differences >>> >> being the greater of the two! Breeding plumage Brewers and Rusty >>> >> males both similiar. Most good field guides give a reliable >>> >> detailed comparison breakdown!! Rustys have yellow eye, Male >>> >> Brewers has whitish eye. Female Brewers always has dark eye. More >>> >> confusing--in migration both species intermingle! Voice >>> >> difference between the 2 species also ! Rustys breeding territory >>> >> way north in Canada, Brewers mostly a western bird but breeding >>> >> occurs in Michigan mostly in the northern parts! >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Russ Emmons, St. Clair county >>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >> From: Sally K Scheer >>> >> To: birders(AT)umich.edu >>> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:56 PM >>> >> Subject: [birders] Re: FW: hair tearing >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Maybe you're seeing the male and the female, huh? Try this >>> >> Cornell link for pictures of both. There's the same kind of >>> >> difference between male and female for red-wing blackbirds too. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> http://www.birds.cornell.edu/AllAboutBirds/BirdGuide/Rusty_Blackbird >>> >> .html >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Sally Scheer >>> >> Clinton MI >>> >> Bridgewater Township >>> >> SW Washtenaw County >>> >> >>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >> From: Cendra >>> >> To: birders(AT)umich.edu >>> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:45 PM >>> >> Subject: [birders] FW: hair tearing >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I really am ready to scream and tear it out because google >>> >> images are showing me two completely different birds when I >>> >> try to learn what rusty blackbirds look like. On >>> >> >>> >> http://images.google.com/images?q=rusty%20blackbirds&rls=com.micro >>> >> >>> >> soft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1&um=1&sa=N&tab >>> >> =wi there are some that look black and rusty and then there >>> >> are some birds I would have said were brown sparrows. They >>> >> look NOTHING alike. >>> >> >>> >> Would someone point me to a reliable image of a rusty >>> >> blackbird, please? I think I may have seen some in my yard >>> >> if >>> >> they are the black-rust ones. >>> >> >>> >> Thanks >>> >> >>> >> Cendra Lynn >>> >> OWS, A2 >>> >> --- >>> >> * birders FAQ - >>> >> http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo >>> >> sharing site - >>> >> http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html >>> >> >>> >> * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message >>> >> to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as >>> >> the Subject line. 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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Pheasant From: mszedenits <mszedenits(AT)gmail.com> Date: 2 May 2008 2:12pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- For the second time this week a pheasant came into my yard. This is the first pheasant in the 8 years we have been at this house. It seemed interested in the safflower seeds the Jays had kicked out of a feeder. Margaret Prospect near Ford Superior Township, Washtenaw County --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Crane Creek today From: "Joseph W. Brown" <josephwb(AT)umich.edu> Date: 2 May 2008 2:59pm I took my wife and 2 year old son to Crane Creek today for some early migration birding. The weather was bad - very windy and rainy for most of our time there. Species numbers were not too bad, but individual numbers were very low. Below are some highlights: Black-and-white Warbler - a few Hooded Warbler - 1 Magnolia Warbler - 1 Yellow-rumped Warbler - a few Yellow Warbler - many Northern Parula - 1 Palm Warbler - many - probably the most I've ever seen in a single outing Black-throated Blue Warbler - 2 Black-throated Green Warbler - 1 Ovenbird - 4 Northern Waterthrush - 2 Wood Thrush - 1 Veery - several Hermit Thrush - several White-crowned Sparrow - in droves White-throated Sparrow - in droves Rose-breasted Grosbeak - 1 Black-crowned Night Heron - 1 Gray Catbird - many Great Egret - many Blue Jays - several 30+ flocks Joseph. ______________________________________________________________________________________________ Joseph W. Brown, PhD Candidate Museum of Zoology, Bird Division 3015 Ruthven Museums Building 1109 Geddes Avenue University of Michigan, Ann Arbor MI 48109-1079 Fax: (734) 763-4080 Email: josephwb(AT)umich.edu Homepage: http://www.umich.edu/~josephwb/ Biology 162 Laboratory: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~josephwb/Biol162/Lab.html Queen's Conservation Genetics Group: http://biology.queensu.ca/~cgg Tree of Life Web Project (Neornithes): http://tolweb.org/tree?group=Neornithes&contgroup=Aves Family page: http://goghbirth.blogspot.com/ --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Crane Creek, May 1 From: "Bruce M. Bowman" <bbowman99(AT)comcast.net> Date: 2 May 2008 3:25pm Bill Dawson, Bob Kelsch, and I went to Crane Creek, Metzger Marsh, etc., to bird yesterday, May 1. We had 18 warblers, listed below, and 82 species total. Our birds included a late Louisiana Waterthrush and a very early Blackpoll Warbler. (_The Birds of Dearborn: An Annotated Checklist_ gives May 7 as the earliest date for Blackpoll and _The Birds of Washtenaw County, Michigan_ gives May 2.) First of the year species for me were: Dunlin, Caspian Tern, Least Flycatcher, Warbling Vireo, Northern Mockingbird, Orange- crowned Warbler, Magnolia Warbler, Blackburnian Warbler, Bay- breasted Warbler, Blackpoll Warbler, and Rose-breasted Grosbeak Bruce Warblers from May 1 Crane Creek trip (18) Orange-crowned Warbler Nashville Warbler Yellow Warbler Chestnut-sided Warbler Magnolia Warbler Yellow-rumped Warbler Black-throated Green Warbler Blackburnian Warbler Pine Warbler Palm Warbler Bay-breasted Warbler Blackpoll Warbler Black-and-white Warbler Prothonotary Warbler Ovenbird Northern Waterthrush Louisiana Waterthrush Common Yellowthroat ------------------------------------ Bruce M. Bowman Ann Arbor, Michigan USA Washtenaw Co., southeast Michigan bbowman99(AT)comcast.net http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: Traffic Updates for Crane Creek and Point Pelee From: pavlik(AT)comcast.net Date: 2 May 2008 7:46pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Google Maps: maps.google.com also has a button to get current traffic conditions. For example, type in Toledo, OH and click the traffic button. www.traffic.com is also an option. It requires creating an account but I don't think there is a fee associated with it. Tom Pavlik -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Ray Stocking" <rstocking(AT)gmail.com> Birders, Two important traffic updates I received today will impact both Point Pelee and Crane Creek birders this weekend and into next week: Crane Creek: I-75 South from I-280 will be closed or have significant delays this weekend. This will impact those who use US-23 North to get home. Alternate route should be I-75 North to I-275. I tried checking to Google for more details but they just don't have a good site with additional details that I could see. I heard this on WJR this morning. Just beware and plan ahead. Point Pelee: (From MDOT) Beginning at 7 a.m. on Monday, May 5 and ending at 7 p.m. on Friday, May 9, crews will close the eastbound I-96 slip ramp to the Ambassador Bridge, and from the Ambassador Bridge to northbound I-75. The closure is necessary for bridge work in the area. Traffic to the Ambassador Bridge will be directed to the West Service Drive to West Grand Blvd. Traffic leaving the Ambassador Bridge will be detoured to Bagley to Rosa Parks to northbound I-75. I would appreciate any updates on both drives form those who trek to either locations within the next week. Thanks, Ray --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Nesting Hooded Mergansers -Southern Jackson County From: "bflylady27(AT)netzero.net" <bflylady27@netzero.net> Date: 2 May 2008 7:55pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- I have cameras on two different mergansers sitting on eggs. Connie _____________________________________________________________ Huge inventory of used cars and trucks. Click now to find the used car y= ou need! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4vAOv3vacOuB1yw1Hv7= 7SfVJFaI7R0vdWSAClUauunTHxrrJ/?count=3D1234567890 --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Green heron, Rochester Hills From: "Janice E. Olesen" <jeolesen(AT)wideopenwest.com> Date: 2 May 2008 4:09pm This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Saw a Green heron today at the detention pond not far from my condo. = Also heard a Baltimore oriole calling in the nearby woods. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] OT: Don't Always Root for the Hawk From: Bob Tarte <theduckpen(AT)att.net> Date: 2 May 2008 5:02pm I came home from work today and my wife showed me a note from a friend of mine who happened to stop by this morning while nobody was home. He heard a commotion out in our duck pen and found a hawk had gotten inside. The top of the pen had been covered with very strong 'poultry netting,' so I had assumed that it was raptor proof. And under normal circumstance, it would have been. However, an ice fall from our barn roof a couple of months ago tore the netting in several places, and the patch-work repairs apparently weren't sufficient. When I went out to the pen today, I found large rips in two places. I presume the hawk tore the patched-together netting while attempting to get out of the pen. We lost two ducklings, which I hate to see. But it would have been much worse if my friend hadn't happened by at just the right time. He caught the hawk in a net and released it. He doesn't know what breed it was. I'll see if I can find out more when I talk to him this evening. I love hawks. They are beautiful and deserve a meal as much as any other creature. But I don't root for them all of the time! -- Bob Tarte Author of "Fowl Weather" & "Enslaved by Ducks" Algonquin Books of Chapel Hill Info and animal photos at: http://www.bobtarte.com --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: FW: hair tearing From: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1(AT)comcast.net> Date: 2 May 2008 5:32pm Bruce, My reply was mostly tongue in cheek, but it would make sense to consider eyes and ears equipment. You do have to learn how to use any equipment, and that takes practice and patience. Learning how to move slowly is helpful, but something I see lacking in a lot of new birders at places like Pelee and Crane Creek is the ability to simply stay quiet, and to avoid pointing and waving arms around. Get to your zen birding place and you'll see more... Allen T. Chartier amazilia1(AT)comcast.net Inkster, Michigan, USA ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Website: www.amazilia.net HummerNet: www.amazilia.net/MIHummerNet Blog: http://mihummingbirdguy.blogspot.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Every day, the hummingbird eats its own weight in food. You may wonder how it weighs the food. It doesn't. It just eats another hummingbird. -- Steven Wright ========================================= ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce M. Bowman" <bbowman99(AT)comcast.net> To: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1(AT)comcast.net> Cc: <birders(AT)umich.edu> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [birders] Re: FW: hair tearing > Allen- > > I can't agree with you there. Birding skills are learned through > spending a lot of time in the field (etc., etc.). Good eyesight and good > hearing are things you have or you don't have. Yes :-), I guess you > could say eyes and ears are equipment, but in that case you'd need to up > that 10% equipment weight considerably--to 50%? 75%? (And I'd cut that > 50% luck weight down to about 5%. In birding, as in so many things, the > people who work hard make their own "luck.") > > Bruce > > From: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1(AT)comcast.net> > To: birders(AT)umich.edu > Copies to: <birders(AT)umich.edu> > Subject: [birders] Re: FW: hair tearing > Date sent: Thu, 1 May 2008 21:37:54 -0400 > Send reply to: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1(AT)comcast.net> > >> Bruce, >> >> I think those are subsets of "skill", or perhaps "equipment" :-) >> >> Allen T. Chartier >> amazilia1(AT)comcast.net >> Inkster, Michigan, USA >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- Website: www.amazilia.net HummerNet: www.amazilia.net/MIHummerNet >> Blog: http://mihummingbirdguy.blogspot.com >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- Every day, the hummingbird eats its own weight in food. You may >> wonder >> how it weighs the food. It doesn't. It just eats another hummingbird. -- >> Steven Wright ========================================= >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bruce M. Bowman" <bbowman99(AT)comcast.net> >> To: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1(AT)comcast.net> >> Cc: <birders(AT)umich.edu> >> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 8:49 PM >> Subject: Re: [birders] Re: FW: hair tearing >> >> >> > Allen- >> > >> > You left out keen senses! Good eyesight and good hearing. >> > >> > Bruce >> > >> > >> > From: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1(AT)comcast.net> >> > To: birders(AT)umich.edu >> > Subject: [birders] Re: FW: hair tearing >> > Date sent: Thu, 1 May 2008 11:09:50 -0400 >> > Send reply to: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1(AT)comcast.net> >> > >> >> Cendra, >> >> >> >> As you'll discover as you get more into our shared obsession, birding >> >> requires luck (50%), patience (25%), skill (15%), and equipment (10%). >> >> >> >> Allen T. Chartier >> >> amazilia1(AT)comcast.net >> >> Inkster, Michigan, USA >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> --- --- Website: www.amazilia.net HummerNet: >> >> www.amazilia.net/MIHummerNet Blog: >> >> http://mihummingbirdguy.blogspot.com >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> --- --- Every day, the hummingbird eats its own weight in food. You >> >> may >> >> wonder how it weighs the food. It doesn't. It just eats another >> >> hummingbird. -- Steven Wright >> >> ========================================= >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Cendra >> >> To: birders(AT)umich.edu >> >> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 12:49 AM >> >> Subject: [birders] Re: FW: hair tearing >> >> >> >> >> >> Oh, come on! Birds don't hold still long enough to sort all that >> >> out!! I'm still upset about the sparrows, which I thought was one >> >> species. I finally saw one that held still long enough for me to >> >> memorize its patterns, and of course it fits nothing in the bird >> >> book! Everything else flies into a tree directly behind another >> >> branch, or lands in a great position for me to view it for about one >> >> second, or is placed so >> >> I >> >> have to look directly into the sun. >> >> >> >> Seriously, I think some of you are making this up! And the ones of >> >> you who get those amazing photographs must have some kind of special >> >> power that gets the bird to hold still long enough for you to get it >> >> in >> >> focus. >> >> That one a few days back that was taken of a wood duck through a >> >> maze >> >> of branches just blew me away. Clearly some people on this list >> >> either have great imaginations or special gifts. >> >> >> >> The Muggle Birder, >> >> Cendra Lynn >> >> OWS, A2 >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Russell Emmons >> >> To: Sally K Scheer >> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:08 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [birders] Re: FW: hair tearing >> >> >> >> >> >> And to confuse things even more there is the similiar Brewers >> >> Blackbird with also differences in male and female and both have >> >> plumage differences in breeding and winter! Rustys' differences >> >> being the greater of the two! Breeding plumage Brewers and Rusty >> >> males both similiar. Most good field guides give a reliable >> >> detailed comparison breakdown!! Rustys have yellow eye, Male >> >> Brewers has whitish eye. Female Brewers always has dark eye. More >> >> confusing--in migration both species intermingle! Voice >> >> difference >> >> between the 2 species also ! Rustys breeding territory way north >> >> in >> >> Canada, Brewers mostly a western bird but breeding occurs in >> >> Michigan mostly in the northern parts! >> >> >> >> >> >> Russ Emmons, St. Clair county >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Sally K Scheer >> >> To: birders(AT)umich.edu >> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:56 PM >> >> Subject: [birders] Re: FW: hair tearing >> >> >> >> >> >> Maybe you're seeing the male and the female, huh? Try this >> >> Cornell link for pictures of both. There's the same kind of >> >> difference between male and female for red-wing blackbirds too. >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.birds.cornell.edu/AllAboutBirds/BirdGuide/Rusty_Blackbird >> >> .html >> >> >> >> >> >> Sally Scheer >> >> Clinton MI >> >> Bridgewater Township >> >> SW Washtenaw County >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Cendra >> >> To: birders(AT)umich.edu >> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:45 PM >> >> Subject: [birders] FW: hair tearing >> >> >> >> >> >> I really am ready to scream and tear it out because google >> >> images are showing me two completely different birds when I >> >> try >> >> to learn what rusty blackbirds look like. On >> >> >> >> http://images.google.com/images?q=rusty%20blackbirds&rls=com.micro >> >> >> >> soft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1&um=1&sa=N&tab >> >> =wi there are some that look black and rusty and then there >> >> are >> >> some birds I would have said were brown sparrows. They look >> >> NOTHING alike. >> >> >> >> Would someone point me to a reliable image of a rusty >> >> blackbird, please? I think I may have seen some in my yard if >> >> they are the black-rust ones. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Cendra Lynn >> >> OWS, A2 >> >> --- >> >> * birders FAQ - >> >> http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo >> >> sharing site - >> >> http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html >> >> >> >> * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message >> >> to >> >> lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the >> >> Subject line. 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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] RE: hair tearing From: "Bruce M. Bowman" <bbowman99(AT)comcast.net> Date: 2 May 2008 5:46pm The > people who know the most and more easily identify more birds under > difficult conditions, are the people who have put in the most time > learning how to do it. And among these people, the ones who have the best eyesight and the best hearing will find and identify more birds. As Eric implied, if you can't hear a bird you will many times walk right by it, unaware of its presence. Certainly if it is at all distant, you will have no clue that it's in the vicinity. Similarly, if your vision isn't good enough to detect a slight movement that others will see, you will not be aware of the presence of a bird. Bruce From: "CJ McDonald" <cjmcd77(AT)comcast.net> To: birders(AT)umich.edu Subject: [birders] RE: hair tearing Date sent: Fri, 2 May 2008 02:27:21 -0400 Send reply to: "CJ McDonald" <cjmcd77(AT)comcast.net> > Cendra, > > The more I bird, and watch other birders, the more I think that luck, > patience and skill are all elements of one thing. It takes a lot of time > watching birds to get good at identifying them. And the more comfident > one becomes with identifying common birds, the more easily he'll notice > something out of place. Many people expect to walk outside and see > replicas of the pictures in their field guides, which don't exist. > > There is no piece of gear, no magical field guide, no shortcut to spending > a lot of time actually watching birds and getting to know them. The > people who know the most and more easily identify more birds under > difficult conditions, are the people who have put in the most time > learning how to do it. So, when one of those people has a rare bird perch > in front of them, don't curse your bad luck, but wonder instead if you > would have recognized it if it had landed in front of you. Have you spent > the time studying hundreds or thousands of the common birds that the rare > one resembles, so you're ready to make the right call in that moment? > > I can tell you from observing really good birders through the years that > they're usually not the ones talking about their birding exploits, but the > quiet ones with their binoculars aimed at something. > > I love the Branch Rickey (Brooklyn Dodgers GM) quote, "Luck is the residue > of design." It fits a lot of situations, including this one. Determine > to learn the birds one encounter at a time, spend as much time in the > field as possible, and try to learn habits and habitats as well as > physical traits. Forget spending more on equipment until what you're using > is holding you back. And expect branches and leaves, the sun, insects, > hot and cold weather, and everything else in nature to challenge you > constantly. > > As for bird photography, I don't do it anymore. After I saw Andreas Kanon > walk out of LeFurge Woods covered with mud in mid-March, and he told me he > had been stretched out in the frozen swamp to get pictures of Red-winged > Blackbirds, I figured I'd stick with watching them -- especially since my > photos would never be as good as his. I'm just not committed enough to be > really good at it, and if I'm not really good, why not just look at > someone else's pictures? Check out www.kanonphoto.com for a really > excellent confluence of luck, patience, skill and equipment. > > Jim McDonald > Ypsilanti > > _____ > > From: Allen T. Chartier [mailto:amazilia1(AT)comcast.net] > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:10 AM > To: birders(AT)umich.edu > Subject: [birders] Re: FW: hair tearing > > > Cendra, > > As you'll discover as you get more into our shared obsession, birding > requires luck (50%), patience (25%), skill (15%), and equipment (10%). > > Allen T. Chartier > amazilia1(AT)comcast.net > Inkster, Michigan, USA > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- - Website: www.amazilia.net HummerNet: www.amazilia.net/MIHummerNet > Blog: http://mihummingbirdguy.blogspot.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- - Every day, the hummingbird eats its own weight in food. You may > wonder how it weighs the food. It doesn't. It just eats another > hummingbird. -- Steven Wright ========================================= > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cendra <mailto:cendra(AT)digitalrealm.net> > To: birders(AT)umich.edu > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 12:49 AM > Subject: [birders] Re: FW: hair tearing > > Oh, come on! Birds don't hold still long enough to sort all that out!! > I'm still upset about the sparrows, which I thought was one species. I > finally saw one that held still long enough for me to memorize its > patterns, and of course it fits nothing in the bird book! Everything else > flies into a tree directly behind another branch, or lands in a great > position for me to view it for about one second, or is placed so I have to > look directly into the sun. > > Seriously, I think some of you are making this up! And the ones of you > who get those amazing photographs must have some kind of special power > that gets the bird to hold still long enough for you to get it in focus. > That one a few days back that was taken of a wood duck through a maze of > branches just blew me away. Clearly some people on this list either have > great imaginations or special gifts. > > The Muggle Birder, > Cendra Lynn > OWS, A2 > > > > > > --- > * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html > * photo sharing site - > http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html > > * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to > lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject > line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. > > ------------------------------------ Bruce M. 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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: FW: hair tearing From: "Bruce M. Bowman" <bbowman99(AT)comcast.net> Date: 2 May 2008 6:03pm As far as considering eyes and ears as equipment is concerned, and the need to learn how to use "any equipment," yes, you try to make the best use possible of what you've got, whether it's good binocs or bad binocs, good eyesight or bad eyesight, good hearing or bad hearing. The VERY important difference between these types of equipment, though, is that with money you can upgrade your optics (etc.) considerably--i.e., you can match the best that ANYONE ELSE has. The amount that eyeglasses and hearing aids will help you is very limited, though, in this sense (especially, as Eric mentioned, hearing aids). Money will not get you up to where people with good eyesight and hearing are. People with poor eyesight or hearing are at a permanent disadvantage. Bruce From: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1(AT)comcast.net> To: birders(AT)umich.edu Subject: [birders] Re: FW: hair tearing Date sent: Fri, 2 May 2008 17:32:59 -0400 Send reply to: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1(AT)comcast.net> > Bruce, > > My reply was mostly tongue in cheek, but it would make sense to consider > eyes and ears equipment. You do have to learn how to use any equipment, > and that takes practice and patience. > > Learning how to move slowly is helpful, but something I see lacking in a > lot of new birders at places like Pelee and Crane Creek is the ability to > simply stay quiet, and to avoid pointing and waving arms around. Get to > your zen birding place and you'll see more... > > Allen T. Chartier > amazilia1(AT)comcast.net > Inkster, Michigan, USA > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- Website: www.amazilia.net HummerNet: www.amazilia.net/MIHummerNet > Blog: http://mihummingbirdguy.blogspot.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- Every day, the hummingbird eats its own weight in food. You may wonder > how it weighs the food. It doesn't. It just eats another hummingbird. -- > Steven Wright ========================================= > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce M. Bowman" <bbowman99(AT)comcast.net> > To: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1(AT)comcast.net> > Cc: <birders(AT)umich.edu> > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:04 PM > Subject: Re: [birders] Re: FW: hair tearing > > > > Allen- > > > > I can't agree with you there. Birding skills are learned through > > spending a lot of time in the field (etc., etc.). Good eyesight and > > good hearing are things you have or you don't have. Yes :-), I guess > > you could say eyes and ears are equipment, but in that case you'd need > > to up that 10% equipment weight considerably--to 50%? 75%? (And I'd cut > > that 50% luck weight down to about 5%. In birding, as in so many > > things, the people who work hard make their own "luck.") > > > > Bruce > > > > From: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1(AT)comcast.net> > > To: birders(AT)umich.edu > > Copies to: <birders(AT)umich.edu> > > Subject: [birders] Re: FW: hair tearing > > Date sent: Thu, 1 May 2008 21:37:54 -0400 > > Send reply to: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1(AT)comcast.net> > > > >> Bruce, > >> > >> I think those are subsets of "skill", or perhaps "equipment" :-) > >> > >> Allen T. Chartier > >> amazilia1(AT)comcast.net > >> Inkster, Michigan, USA > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> --- --- Website: www.amazilia.net HummerNet: > >> www.amazilia.net/MIHummerNet Blog: http://mihummingbirdguy.blogspot.com > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> --- --- Every day, the hummingbird eats its own weight in food. You may > >> wonder how it weighs the food. It doesn't. It just eats another > >> hummingbird. -- Steven Wright ========================================= > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Bruce M. Bowman" <bbowman99(AT)comcast.net> > >> To: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1(AT)comcast.net> > >> Cc: <birders(AT)umich.edu> > >> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 8:49 PM &