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Subject: "Western Hummingbird" notes, 1/25/01
From: Stacy Peterson <SJPeterson(AT)AOL.COM>
Date: 25 Jan 2001 1:56am
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HI Humnuts,
I like Mr. Tom's new hummer tally format. Makes it so much easier for me to
extract info and keep my maps current! Speaking of which, they'll be updated
sometime on Thursday. I'm going to bed soon.
But first I thought I'd drop a few stats in your laps if you're interested.
With the completion of this week's tally by Tom Sylvest and psuedo-proofed by
me, you have 551 hummers recorded from Louisiana: 387 _Selasphorus_, 95
Black-chins, 42 Buff-bellies, 26 Calliope's, and 1 Broad-billed.
Average overall western hummers per garden = 3.20
It's no surprise that Iberville Parish has the greatest density of hummers
per garden (15.5). [The Remsen / Cardiff-Dittman duo are doing well, and
with only two gardens to dilute the average, this easily overtakes all other
parishes, including Lafourche which has 20 gardens, despite the 29 birds in
Robichaux's Raceland yard alone]. St. Charles Parish comes in second with
5.5 hummers per garden. St. James Parish isn't far behind in third place
(5.25 hummers per garden).
If you look at the density of _Selasphorus_ hummers per garden, the order of
the top three Parishes doesn't change (Iberville = 7.0, St. Charles = 4.5,
St. James = 4.0)
Black-chinned density is a bit different. Again, Iberville takes a large
lead with 5.0 hummers per garden. But then there are four Parishes each with
1 hummer per garden: St. James, Jefferson, Iberia, and St. Martin.
Buff-bellies: Terrebone Parish comes in first with 1.0 hummers per garden,
followed closely by Lafourche (0.85), and Cameron (0.67).
Calliopes: Iberville again takes the cake with 3.0 hummers per garden,
followed by East Baton Rouge (0.38) and Cameron (0.33).
Of course density at this point should be taken with a large grain of salt.
Perhaps more emphasis should be placed on the number of gardens per parish.
But that'll have to wait for another update...
Credit must be given, of course, to the greatest number of birds from one
yard: Lisa Robichaux's 29 in Raceland (Lafourche Parish). This is followed
closely by the Cardiff/Dittman's 23 in St. Gabriel (Iberville Parish). Third
place so far would go to Margaret and John Owens with 18 in their Covington
(St. Tammany Parish) yard.
Me? I still have zero. But maybe that's because I don't live in Louisiana.
--Stacy
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Subject: Re: campus lists
From: Russ Allor <RAllor(AT)AOL.COM>
Date: 25 Jan 2001 8:59am
In a message dated 1/24/01 4:59:03 PM Central Standard Time,
conover(AT)TALSTAR.COM writes:
<< you mention big bend. big bend is a huge wilderness area. the
number of breeding species is large, and the number of species that are
annual migrants or winter residents is also large--and fairly consistent.
on top of that, there are a few species that birders will make a special
trip for. this is true of many large, public natural areas. >>
Paul: You are right on target. I was at Big Bend twice with a local check
list and the Colima Warbler escaped me both times. <ugh> Local campuses are
hardly places that a birder would rush to on a typical morning.
<<and don't forget, when roger and charlie's book comes out,
visiting birders will have some truly valuable location guides to take them
to where the tweeties really are [just behind the cam-mart].>>
I am really looking forward to that one. Wish I could help them get it going.
Russ
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Subject: Re: campus lists
From: Bill Fontenot <bbboy(AT)NATURESTATION.ORG>
Date: 25 Jan 2001 10:39am
At 05:28 PM 1/24/2001 -0600, you wrote:
> i'm sure that jay has the best intentions, but his crusade is
>misdirected. a campus list won't help scientists, tourists, grunt birders,
>birds, the soul of aldo leopold, the green party, green space, our deep
>inner yearning to be free, or any of that.
maybe, just maybe, a campus list project would inspire those students,
faculty, and other workers who are just getting started or are thinking
about getting started in birding...in other words, ANY observational type
project done outdoors, and dealing with living things or with the habitats
in which they live, has got to hold some benefit...or should i say benefit
to some...
bill fontenot
acadiana park nature station
lafayette, la.
>paul conover
>tallahassee, fl
>
>
>
>
>----------
>> From: Russ Allor <RAllor(AT)AOL.COM>
>> To: LABIRD-L(AT)listserv.lsu.edu
>> Subject: Re: campus lists
>> Date: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 2:17 PM
>>
>> In a message dated 1/24/01 12:06:59 PM Central Standard Time,
>> conover(AT)TALSTAR.COM writes:
>>
>> << the priniciples and sentiments that jay expressed were noble,
>and
>> all, but they didn't really address the possible scientific value of
>such
>> lists >>
>>
>> Paul: Why not generate a publishable list for birders similar to the
>lists
>> for Big Bend Nat. Park and other public sites. No science needed here,
>just
>> useful information for grunt birders like myself.
>>
>> Russ Allor
>> Baton Rouge
>
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Subject: Re: campus lists
From: MiriamLDavey <athena(AT)INTERSURF.COM>
Date: 25 Jan 2001 11:35am
Paul wrote:
> i'm sure that jay has the best intentions, but his crusade is
>misdirected. a campus list won't help scientists, tourists, grunt birders,
>birds, the soul of aldo leopold, the green party, green space, our deep
>inner yearning to be free, or any of that.
Bill wrote:
maybe, just maybe, a campus list project would inspire those students,
faculty, and other workers who are just getting started or are thinking
about getting started in birding...in other words, ANY observational type
project done outdoors, and dealing with living things or with the habitats
in which they live, has got to hold some benefit...or should i say benefit
to some...
bill fontenot
acadiana park nature station
lafayette, la.
Jay, Paul, Russ, Bill,
I tend to agree with Jay & Bill. The systematic focusing of public
attention on censusing any kind of native life within any defined area is a
valuable thing. As far as ULaLa's campus or any other campus being a
mediocre or even crummy birding place, well, there are always better places
to bird than the place one is located at the moment. ;)
If the checklist could show more than just whether a bird has ever been
present or not--if it could show relative abundance and seasonal occurence,
along with specific locations like "look for spring migrating songbirds in
the native Sweet Pecan beside Authement Hall" or something, that would be a
little more descriptive and useful to birders who might find themselves
stuck on campus with an hour or two to kill, or lunchtime birders, or
extra-studious kids taking ornithology.
Also, if properly promoted, the process of preparing and updating the
campus list could serve as sort of a focus for the effects of habitat
presence or absence on native songbird populations, especially during
nesting season when area sport birding is winding down anyway. I can just
see the TV news crew now... "Dr.Huner, why doesn't a Prothonotary Warbler
nest in the campus Cypress Swamp? After all, isn't it is a swamp bird?"
And he can go into all the reasons why the little spot of swamp surrounded
by academic suburbania is inadequate for Cajun Canaries. He can mention by
comparison how good his crawfish farms are for native birdlife.
(Prothonotaries don't nest there in that little campus swamp, do they,
Jay?!!!!!!)
Most nature preserves offer a bird list of some sort, and are visited by
binocular & field guide toters regularly. However, if you really think
about it, you realize that just because the place is protected and open to
birders and calls itself wilderness doesn't necessarily mean it's the best
place in the area to find birds.
If Jay has the time and the inclination, I think it would be valuable, if
nothing more than to showcase what's not there and could be if the habitat
were better. Twenty-five years ago, not too many birders were interested
in backyard birding. Now it's a thing.
And a little intercollegiate competition never hurts, either.
MiriamLDavey
BatonRougeLA
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Subject: Re: campus lists
From: Russ Allor <RAllor(AT)AOL.COM>
Date: 25 Jan 2001 2:42pm
In a message dated 1/25/01 11:36:55 AM Central Standard Time,
athena(AT)INTERSURF.COM writes:
<<
And a little intercollegiate competition never hurts, either.
>>
Now THERE is an idea. Maybe we could end up with the BirdBowl during late
summer.
Russ
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Subject: campus lists
From: Mark Swan <markruthswan(AT)EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 25 Jan 2001 2:47pm
Paul,
I think you would be inclined to support Jay's list-efforts if the lists
were to include annotation for the abundance or numbers of each species,
especially if presented by month or season. I agree that a bird list
that lacks estimates of the abundance of birds is not particularly
valuable to birders because the inclusion of many species on the list
and the exclusion of many species from the list is strongly due to
chance. Bird lists compiled for states and larger areas are least
subject to this problem. Because some species (even a few common ones)
may not be discovered at a small place until after years of visitation,
an ornithologist who never visits the place can construct a more
accurate, predictive, and complete bird list for that place with less
than one hour of thinking than can 20 people visiting the place for a
whole year! For practical reasons, bird lists that cover areas smaller
than a state or county tend to be drenched with errors of both omission
and commission (hopefully far more of the former). A reason for birds
included by mistake is that only a few states, and perhaps only
California, have the human resources to maintain a committee to review
new records for lists covering small areas. As for errors of omission
(birds left off the list not by mistake, but through their infrequency
of occurrence), consider this: Many of us have heard the advice about
keeping our bird books closed when taking notes about a rare bird that
we might find. Similarly, we might well be advised to visit a site
regularly and frequently over a period of at least 2-5 years before even
beginning to construct a list! And if we count birds or note foods
eaten or snap pictures, etc., etc., etc., we’ll have contributed data
far more valuable than the names of the birds comprising the list.
Mark Swan
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Subject: Re: campus lists
From: Bob Beason <bibeason(AT)ULM.EDU>
Date: 25 Jan 2001 3:12pm
<<
And a little intercollegiate competition never hurts, either.
>>
Now THERE is an idea. Maybe we could end up with the BirdBowl during late
summer.
I like that idea. Loser buys pizza and drinks?
Bob Beason
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Subject: Re: Martha's Famous No Melt suet recipe
From: Van Remsen <najames(AT)unix1.sncc.lsu.edu>
Date: 25 Jan 2001 3:42pm
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Alan Hohensee wrote:
> Labirders, here's the recipe for Martha"s suet. I have always thought
> "Martha" was Martha Sargent.
>
> 1 Cup Crunchy Peanut Butter
> 2 Cups "Quick Cook" Oats
> 2 Cups Cornmeal
> 1 Cup Lard (NO substitutes)
> 1 Cup white flour
> 1/3 cup sugar
Alan/LABIRD:
-- are you sure that's not a Martha Stewart recipe?
-- is it Demcheck-proof?
and, more seriously ...
-- which species of birds are eating this at your place?
#################################
Van Remsen,
LSU Museum of Natural Science,
najames(AT)unix1.sncc.lsu.edu
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Subject: Re: Martha's Famous No Melt suet recipe
From: "Beth H. Maniscalco" <cone-bhm(AT)NICH-NSUNET.NICH.EDU>
Date: 25 Jan 2001 4:07pm
Van--
it IS Martha Gail Sargent's recipe! Sammy and I use it and have
several Orange-crowned warblers and one lonely Pine Warbler feasting
on it. There was even a Northern Cardinal trying it out the other
day, which I found unusual (didn't know they did suet). Our resident
Downy has not found it apparently (or we never see him on it), but
the mockers certainly have.
Beth Maniscalco
Thibodaux, LA
(approx. 60 miles SW of New Orleans)
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Subject: Re: Martha's Famous No Melt suet recipe
From: Peggy Siegert <PEGSIEGERT(AT)CS.COM>
Date: 25 Jan 2001 4:30pm
In a message dated 1/25/01 3:43:57 PM Central Standard Time,
najames(AT)unix1.sncc.lsu.edu writes:
<< which species of birds are eating this at your place? >>
LAbird...Van,
Don't know about at Alan's, but here kinglets, orange crowned warblers, pine
warblers, myrtle warblers, titmice, chickadees, wrens, thrashers, and the
imm. Summer Tanager hang on the 'suet' log. There may be more...
The only reason I'm offering 'suet' this winter is to up my counts for
Project FeederWatch. Is that cheating??
Several years ago, after watching a Carolina Wren make trip after trip to the
suet taking it back to feed her young in the nest, I quit using suet thinking
this is not a *good thing. Baby birds raised on that stuff aren't getting
all of what they need, was my thinking, and besides I want those birds out
doing their 'pest control' work, not getting fat and lazy on peanut butter
and lard, etc.
What is the thinking on offering suet...and for that matter, what's the
thinking about sunflower seeds, millet, etc.? Here in our usually gentle
winter climate, are we doing right by the birds by offering so much? I have
a hunch that the suet is just a tad too much?? But I'm doing it, too. :-/
Peggy Siegert
Slidell, LA
zone 8b
****************
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Subject: Re: Martha's Famous No Melt suet recipe
From: "Maurice Duvic Sr." <jsb8(AT)WEBTV.NET>
Date: 25 Jan 2001 5:26pm
Van: Are you keeping score on suet eaters? I believe Mourning doves
are the only regulars that don't come to the feeders. I have Downy and
Red-bellied, (haven't had the Red-headed lately, although we had two or
three dozen on the CBC.) Brown Creeper, Blue Jay, N. Mocking Bird, WT
Sparrow, OC & GC Kinglets, Cardinal , (Yesterday, when the horizontal
log was empty, a male cardinal came to the window feeder (vertical) and
did a "hummingbird" hover.) OC, Pine, Wilson's, Yellow Rump Warblers,
Brown Thrasher, Carolina Wren.
To one cup of rendered suet (when I can get it - usually deer season -
beef fat when I can't.) l l/2 cups cornmeal, l/2 cup white flour, sugar
to taste.)
BTW - Any
"specifics" on the Mobile H'b?
Vic
Jackson, MS 392ll
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Subject: Re: campus lists
From: "Jay V. Huner" <jjhuner(AT)MINDSPRING.COM>
Date: 25 Jan 2001 5:34pm
Dear Miriam,
Prothonatory Warblers "may" nest in Cypress Lake. I heard a song that
sounded like a Prothonatory Warbler last summer but I could never
actually find the source.
I am now "on the Farm" and can bird the "campus" only in passing.
Still, why should one manage for native plant species and habitat
unless there is a reason to do so? Showing what's on campus in terms
of birds and what could come if the grounds were managed according to
the master plan that "native plant enthusiast" John Broderick is
trying to accomplish can lead to more bird conservation. If I try and
fail, so be it. If I don't try, I will fail!
Sincerely, Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: MiriamLDavey <athena(AT)INTERSURF.COM>
To: LABIRD-L(AT)listserv.lsu.edu <LABIRD-L(AT)listserv.lsu.edu>
Date: January 25, 2001 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: campus lists
>Paul wrote:
>> i'm sure that jay has the best intentions, but his crusade
is
>>misdirected. a campus list won't help scientists, tourists, grunt
birders,
>>birds, the soul of aldo leopold, the green party, green space, our
deep
>>inner yearning to be free, or any of that.
>
>Bill wrote:
>
>maybe, just maybe, a campus list project would inspire those
students,
>faculty, and other workers who are just getting started or are
thinking
>about getting started in birding...in other words, ANY observational
type
>project done outdoors, and dealing with living things or with the
habitats
>in which they live, has got to hold some benefit...or should i say
benefit
>to some...
>
>bill fontenot
>acadiana park nature station
>lafayette, la.
>
>Jay, Paul, Russ, Bill,
>
>I tend to agree with Jay & Bill. The systematic focusing of public
>attention on censusing any kind of native life within any defined
area is a
>valuable thing. As far as ULaLa's campus or any other campus being a
>mediocre or even crummy birding place, well, there are always better
places
>to bird than the place one is located at the moment. ;)
>
>If the checklist could show more than just whether a bird has ever
been
>present or not--if it could show relative abundance and seasonal
occurence,
>along with specific locations like "look for spring migrating
songbirds in
>the native Sweet Pecan beside Authement Hall" or something, that
would be a
>little more descriptive and useful to birders who might find
themselves
>stuck on campus with an hour or two to kill, or lunchtime birders, or
>extra-studious kids taking ornithology.
>
>Also, if properly promoted, the process of preparing and updating the
>campus list could serve as sort of a focus for the effects of habitat
>presence or absence on native songbird populations, especially during
>nesting season when area sport birding is winding down anyway. I can
just
>see the TV news crew now... "Dr.Huner, why doesn't a Prothonotary
Warbler
>nest in the campus Cypress Swamp? After all, isn't it is a swamp
bird?"
>
>And he can go into all the reasons why the little spot of swamp
surrounded
>by academic suburbania is inadequate for Cajun Canaries. He can
mention by
>comparison how good his crawfish farms are for native birdlife.
>(Prothonotaries don't nest there in that little campus swamp, do
they,
>Jay?!!!!!!)
>
>Most nature preserves offer a bird list of some sort, and are visited
by
>binocular & field guide toters regularly. However, if you really
think
>about it, you realize that just because the place is protected and
open to
>birders and calls itself wilderness doesn't necessarily mean it's the
best
>place in the area to find birds.
>
>If Jay has the time and the inclination, I think it would be
valuable, if
>nothing more than to showcase what's not there and could be if the
habitat
>were better. Twenty-five years ago, not too many birders were
interested
>in backyard birding. Now it's a thing.
>
>And a little intercollegiate competition never hurts, either.
>
>MiriamLDavey
>BatonRougeLA
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Subject: Re: campus lists
From: "Jay V. Huner" <jjhuner(AT)MINDSPRING.COM>
Date: 25 Jan 2001 5:35pm
Well,
Remember, LABIRD is for exchange of ideas, not chat. However, exclude
LSU BR and I can probably find funds to cover several buckets of
chicken/whatever for the "winner" at the Fall LOS meeting!
Sincerely, Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Beason <bibeason(AT)ULM.EDU>
To: LABIRD-L(AT)listserv.lsu.edu <LABIRD-L(AT)listserv.lsu.edu>
Date: January 25, 2001 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: campus lists
><<
> And a little intercollegiate competition never hurts, either.
> >>
>Now THERE is an idea. Maybe we could end up with the BirdBowl
during late
>summer.
>
>I like that idea. Loser buys pizza and drinks?
>
>Bob Beason
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Subject: Re: Martha's Famous No Melt suet recipe
From: Roselie Overby <rosebird(AT)BAYOU.COM>
Date: 25 Jan 2001 7:21pm
I have used this recipe for years. At this time, I have a pine warbler that
almost lands on me when I refill the basket. I've also seen c.
chickadees, tufted titmice, n. cardinals, b. thrashers,
n. mockingbirds and various blackbirds on the "suet" here. When I lived
near Houston, I also had orange-crowned and yellow-rumped warblers on it in
winter and families of red-bellied woodpeckers in the summer. I call it
bird candy.
It's a pretty fool-proof recipe. I just made up some and threw some old
raisins and pecans in it. I like to keep it in the freezer before "serving"
it. Remember to melt lard and peanut butter together before adding other
ingredients. It fits nicely in my large iron skillet.
Roselie
Overby
Oak Grove in
W. Carroll P.
-----Original Message-----
From: Van Remsen <najames(AT)unix1.sncc.lsu.edu>
To: LABIRD-L(AT)listserv.lsu.edu <LABIRD-L(AT)listserv.lsu.edu>
Date: Thursday, January 25, 2001 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: Martha's Famous No Melt suet recipe
>On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Alan Hohensee wrote:
>
>> Labirders, here's the recipe for Martha"s suet. I have always thought
>> "Martha" was Martha Sargent.
>>
>> 1 Cup Crunchy Peanut Butter
>> 2 Cups "Quick Cook" Oats
>> 2 Cups Cornmeal
>> 1 Cup Lard (NO substitutes)
>> 1 Cup white flour
>> 1/3 cup sugar
>
>Alan/LABIRD:
>
>-- are you sure that's not a Martha Stewart recipe?
>-- is it Demcheck-proof?
>
>and, more seriously ...
>
>-- which species of birds are eating this at your place?
>
>#################################
>
>Van Remsen,
> LSU Museum of Natural Science,
> najames(AT)unix1.sncc.lsu.edu
>
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Subject: Jay Humer's re Birds from Orlando area.
From: "Maurice Duvic Sr." <jsb8(AT)WEBTV.NET>
Date: 25 Jan 2001 9:30pm
Since Orlando is such a mecca I thought the gro
up would be interested in this reply I got from a friend:
"I am really not into bird watching except for those birds that choose
my yard. We seem to have a large assortment of seasonal birds in our
back yard every year. I'm not too good at identifying them, but I know
we have sparrows, blue jays, mocking birds, whip-poor-wills , humming
birds, owls, hawks, bald eagles, blackbirds, robins in February, quail,
mallards, snowy egrets, and several other types. The only birds that
Disney tries to discourage are sea gulls that like to go to the Magic
Kingdom and poop on people. The gulls and English sparrows make a good
living on popcorn.
"The Animal Kingdom is home to many wild birds and exotic ones too.
Flamingoes and peacocks are all over the place. White doves are kept
for release at daily flag lowering ceremonies. Very special care is
taken to prevent the wild life here from being poisoned by insecticides.
:The company maintains a huge undeveloped area where all the local
critters can live without fear of human encroachment. In the wild are
several herds of deer, armadillos, raccoons, squirrels, alligators, and
virtually every other species native to Florida. Wild turkeys are seen
frequently.
"I have never heard of any program here that caters to bird-watchers.
Hiking on nature trails is not the wisest thing to do in Florida anyway
because of snakes and gators, and I doubt that the company would ever
encourage hiking in wilderness areas. We do have horseback riding at
the campground, but the equestrian trails are kept immaculate and are
used so frequently that snakes, etc. rarely venture there.
"All in all, Walt Disney World does a super job of maintaining a
balanced environment for wildlife and the millions of people who come
here every year. Our wetlands are protected from contamination, we have
our own sewage treatment facilities, irrigation is done largely with
reclaimed water, rodents are well controlled, and the personal security
of our guests is foremost in the minds of Disney management.
"Whether or not bird-watching treks are ever scheduled, those who enjoy
that sort of thing may rest assured that Disney World is doing more than
enough to insure that future generations can see birds on the wing."
Bill
And he doesn't work for the P.R. Dept.!
Vic
Jackson, MS 392ll
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Subject: Re: campus lists
From: Russ Allor <RAllor(AT)AOL.COM>
Date: 25 Jan 2001 10:41pm
After some thoght, it occurs to me that a list from a campus would be no
different from a list anywhere in the community. It would average out to be
the same.
Russ
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Subject: Re: campus lists
From: David Muth <dmuth(AT)BELLSOUTH.NET>
Date: 25 Jan 2001 11:44pm
All:
Well, I have to confess that this discussion of campus lists is a little too
esoteric for me, simple fellow that I am. And, furthermore, I deplore even a
hint of competition when it comes to what ought to be our sacred duties,
such as field ornithologizing and keeping lists for the greater good.
But, I just took a checklist and calculated, without breaking a sweat, a
bird list for my beloved alma mater, the University of New Orleans, that
exceeded 270 species. This includes at least 3 first state records, Great
Black-backed Gull, Antillean Nighthawk, and McCown's Longspur (not to
mention the first accepted Ruff, eventually superceded by an earlier record
turned in later).
Now, if anybody else can come within spitting distance of that on your sorry
campuses, I may be forced to dig out my old notes, and consult the
incomparable Jack Reinoehl's notes, and talk to Peter Yaukey, and see how
close to 300 we can get that list.
Not that I care.
David Muth
New Orleans
-----Original Message-----
From: Bulletin Board for Dissemination of Information on Louisiana Birds
[mailto:LABIRD-L(AT)listserv.lsu.edu]On Behalf Of Bob Beason
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 2:13 PM
To: LABIRD-L(AT)listserv.lsu.edu
Subject: Re: campus lists
<<
And a little intercollegiate competition never hurts, either.
>>
Now THERE is an idea. Maybe we could end up with the BirdBowl during late
summer.
I like that idea. Loser buys pizza and drinks?
Bob Beason
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