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LABIRD-L for Wednesday, January 10, 2001

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 Subject From Time 
 New web address for "western" hummingbird maps...  Stacy Peterson   1:19am 
 Re: amazing insectivore void  Buford Myers   8:36am 
 Re: Insectivorous bird void - a northern note  Bill Fontenot   9:09am 
 Re: amazing insectivore void  Peter H. Yaukey  10:00am 
 more insectivore void- New Orleans  Peter H. Yaukey  10:12am 
 Great Backyard Bird Count dates  Allison Wells   10:26am 
 Re: frugivores  Van Remsen   1:28pm 
 LA-LIT  JINGOLD   2:41pm 
 Frogivores  William Wimley   3:39pm 
 Pine Siskins  Larry & Sue Wilson   4:45pm 
 Re: Pine Siskins and goldfinches  Van Remsen   5:00pm 
 goldfinches  Peggy Siegert   5:59pm 
 Re: goldfinches  James Beck   6:44pm 
 Re: Insectivorous bird void - a northern note  Matt Pontiff   6:53pm 
 Pink-sided, Slate-colored or Oregon Junco?  Bill Wood   6:57pm 
 Re: Pine Siskins  Bill Wood   7:09pm 
 Re: Pink-sided, Slate-colored or Oregon Junco?  Paul Dickson   10:01pm 
 Birds of Note - Girard Park, Lafayette, Louisiana - Lafayette Parish  Jay V. Huner  10:22pm 
 Re: frugivores - Western St. Martin Parish - UL Lafayerte Farm  Jay V. Huner  10:58pm 
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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: New web address for "western" hummingbird maps... From: Stacy Peterson <SJPeterson(AT)AOL.COM> Date: 10 Jan 2001 1:19am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Friends, The hummingbird portions of the "CoastBirds" web page on Geocities have moved to their own location -- <http://www.geocities.com/trochilids>. This applies to the maps for winter hummers in Mississippi, Louisiana, and Selasphorus hummers in the entire eastern USA (the "Selasphorus" project). If you've been following these developments, please update your bookmarks to reflect this new change. If you'd like to see what we're up to, visit at the new address above! The hummingbird projects started small, but rapidly congealed into something that deserves it own entity. This change will also ease the eventual transition when Laura and I leave the Mississippi Gulf Coast (and hence the "CoastBirds" part of the web project) this summer. "Trochilids" is something I aim to continue in our new location (wherever the USAF chooses to PCS us...) Thanks to everyone who has reported wintering hummingbirds for this project. If you haven't visited these pages yet, please do so. See how you can help us map the occurrence of wintering hummers in the eastern USA. Best wishes, --Stacy ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Stacy Jon Peterson 210 Fechet Drive, Biloxi, MS 39531 3 blocks from the Gulf of Mexico SJPeterson(AT)aol.com ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// BIRDS of Coastal MS: www.geocities.com/coastbirds/ GENEALOGY: www.my-ged.com/peterson AND http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=peterson RAIN FOREST preservation -- help us for free! <A HREF="http://rainforest.care2.com/welcome?w=216486224"> http://rainforest.care2.com/welcome?w=216486224</A> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: amazing insectivore void From: Buford Myers <bmyers990(AT)earthlink.net> Date: 10 Jan 2001 8:36am Van, Your idea about replicating a CBC later in the winter is interesting. As a practical matter, it would probably be impossible to get all the same people, or even the same number of people, to participate. However, it might be possible to duplicate the effort in a few of the areas within the count circle, maybe with the exact same people doing the same areas they did on the CBC. Repeating this over several years might yield some very interesting data, especially if it were done on parts of several different different count circles. Mac
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Insectivorous bird void - a northern note From: Bill Fontenot <bbboy(AT)NATURESTATION.ORG> Date: 10 Jan 2001 9:09am At 01:14 PM 1/9/2001 -0600, you wrote: >On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, JINGOLD wrote: > >> I banded birds on my east Texas site this past Saturday (01-01-2001). I >> recaptured a Ruby-crowned Kinglet that was originally banded on 11-11-2000. >> This bird has weathered two ice storms, one major and one minor, and a 2.5 >> inch snow storm on News Year eve. > >Jim/LABIRD: what intrigues me about the apparent RcKi evacuation is that >this species, as your record above demonstrates, is not one of those >sissy insectivores that can't handle real winter -- they occur normally >in winter much farther north than LA and routinely handle harsher weather >than they'd face in the worst of whatever south Louisiana could throw at >them; they are also not exclusively insectivores, with things like Poison >Ivy fruit a regular menu item. agreed. so we have to begin thinking about y2k crop failures in terms of 1) poison ivy, wax myrtle, and other small-bird fruits, and 2) insects whose overwintering larvae and/or eggs these small woodland bird species depend upon as well. personally, i was impressed with the lack of RcKi, BgGnat, Orange-crowned, CYellowthroat, HWren, and woodpeckers in general over this s.la. cbc (n=7) season, especially so during the crowley count, which was the latest of 'em all. even the larger, more dedicated frugivores are having problems finding food down here this winter. 2 days ago, judge rick michot (an excellent am. naturalist & brother of labird-L's own dr. tommy michot) excitedly reported a flock of am. robins cleaning out a large holly tree just outside the court house. actually, a bailiff (sp) walked up to rick & said, "judge, i've got bad news." rick said he thought the guy was gonna tell him that someone had died. instead, the bailiff said, "your car [which was parked near the holly] is completely covered with bird mess." rick walked to a window, and when he saw the feeding frenzy, he goes, "cool!" obviously, the court took him for a fool. anyway, my point is that the am. robin/holly interactions do not normally commence until the last week of january (and much more so by mid to late february) here in lafayette. so these birds are about a month early, which means that they've obviously run out of early & mid-winter foods. bill fontenot acadiana park nature station lafayette, la. > >################################# > >Van Remsen, > LSU Museum of Natural Science, > najames(AT)unix1.sncc.lsu.edu >
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: amazing insectivore void From: "Peter H. Yaukey" <pyaukey(AT)UNO.EDU> Date: 10 Jan 2001 10:00am Mac, Van, and LABird: I have for the last three consecutive winters (unfortunately, not this one) performed replicate one-man CBCs in the Paradis Oil Field, the first ca. Dec 10, the second in mid-February, to see which species increase and decrease in numbers over the course of the winter. I spend the same amount of time on each of the seven sub-areas within the oil field, and walk exactly the same pathways, totalling about 6 hrs each time. I only have last winter's observations on hand at the moment, but some of the results for passerines: Phoebe numbers dropped from 31 to 13 from Dec to Feb Gnatcatchers held steady at 6 RcKinglets dropped 53 to 28 Yellowrumps increased 171 to 234 Orangecrowneds held ca. steady (26 to 29) Common Yellowthroats dropped 45 to 24 Swamp Sparrows dropped 166 to 75 My general feel is that a given species does not show the same pattern consistently from year to year. Peter Yaukey Buford Myers wrote: > Van, > > Your idea about replicating a CBC later in the winter is interesting. As a > practical matter, it would probably be impossible to get all the same > people, or even the same number of people, to participate. However, it > might be possible to duplicate the effort in a few of the areas within the > count circle, maybe with the exact same people doing the same areas they did > on the CBC. Repeating this over several years might yield some very > interesting data, especially if it were done on parts of several different > different count circles. > > Mac
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: more insectivore void- New Orleans From: "Peter H. Yaukey" <pyaukey(AT)UNO.EDU> Date: 10 Jan 2001 10:12am Greetings birders! I spent 1.25 hrs in Couturie Woods of City Park, New Orleans, early this AM and corroborate that there is an absence of insectivores. Although there were hordes of robins (350+), and yellowrumps (55) seem within their range of normal variation, I found only: 2 RcKinglet 3 OcWarbler 2 Pine Warbler 1 Blue-h Vireo Zero Gnatcatchers Zero Wilson's Warblers (where they were present all fall). Peter Yaukey PS- wintering Anhingas in the bayou there again, with 3-5 today.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Great Backyard Bird Count dates From: Allison Wells <amw25(AT)CORNELL.EDU> Date: 10 Jan 2001 10:26am Greetings, LAbirders, For those of you who aren't on BirdChat and so may not have seen my post, I wanted to let you know that the Great Backyard Bird Count will take place this year February 16 - 19. The GBBC asks families, individuals, classrooms, and community groups to count the numbers and kinds of birds that visit their feeders, local parks, schoolyards, and other areas during any or all of the four count days. Reports are made online at BirdSource www.birdsource.org. The count was developed and is managed by the National Audubon Society and the Cornell Lab of Ornithology. We invite you to check out LA results at the site. Last year, LA reported 136 different species, plus some write-ins. To participate, count the highest number of each bird species seen at one time (to ensure the birds are not counted more than once) during any or all of the count days (don't add the days together!) and keep track of the amount of time spent counting. Then log on to www.birdsource.org and click on the appropriate state or province for a checklist. Results are updated at the web site hourly in the form of animated maps and colorful graphs. The site includes bird-watching and bird-feeding tips, bird vocalizations, and you are invited to review results from GBBCs past. Write to me or to Matthew McKown at Audubon privately if you would like more information or would like to help us promote the count. Lots more info at the web site. Again, thanks to all who helped last year. Allison Wells Matthew McKown Communications and Outreach Director Project Manager Cornell Lab of Ornithology National Audubon Society birds.cornell.edu mmckown(AT)audubon.org www.birdsource.org www.audubon.org www.birdsource.org
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: frugivores From: Van Remsen <najames(AT)unix1.sncc.lsu.edu> Date: 10 Jan 2001 1:28pm On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Bill Fontenot wrote: > even the larger, more dedicated frugivores are having problems finding food > down here this winter. > .... anyway, my point is that the am. robin/holly > interactions do not normally commence until the last week of january (and > much more so by mid to late february) here in lafayette. so these birds are > about a month early, which means that they've obviously run out of early & > mid-winter foods. Bill/LABIRD: ditto at my place, where Robins are now working over Waxleaf Ligustrum fruit (first time ever at my place), wet spots on forest floor, and even the lawn (normally a February behavior at my place). The one Sugarberry tree that produced some fruit, however, still has enough to keep a few birds busy. Still no action on the Deciduous Holly, however -- usually the last fruit that the frugivores go after (and some winters, they don't even touch it). ################################# Van Remsen, LSU Museum of Natural Science, najames(AT)unix1.sncc.lsu.edu
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: LA-LIT From: JINGOLD <JINGOLD(AT)PILOT.LSUS.EDU> Date: 10 Jan 2001 2:41pm Phillips, Laura C. and Brian S. Hall. 2000. A historical view of red-cockaded Woodpecker Habitat on Fort Polk, Louisiana. Journal of Field Ornithology 71(4):585-596. Jim Ingold LSU-Shreveport jingold(AT)pilot.lsus.edu
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Frogivores From: William Wimley <wwimley(AT)TULANE.EDU> Date: 10 Jan 2001 3:39pm LA-birders, Since all of our insectivorious birds have gone missing, I thought I'd inject a reptilian story. A few days ago, I was birding in tall grass along the North shore of Lake Pontchartrain (looking for Seaside Sparrows - without success). The temperature was in the low 60s. There was a large, heavy board half buried in the grass above the high water line. It had probably been washed up there by some past storm. I cautiously lifted the board and found two fat, black Water Moccasins coiled in two perfect spirals underneath. An exciting find, in my opinion! Luckily, they were too cool and sleepy to move around and I got to study them (but not too close!) for a bit. Then I apologized for disturbing them and gently set their board back down. I think I'll wear boots next time I go in there. Bill Wimley Mandeville,LA
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Pine Siskins From: Larry & Sue Wilson <lawfhw(AT)BELLSOUTH.NET> Date: 10 Jan 2001 4:45pm Two Pine Siskins were among the Goldfinches at the thistle feeders this morning. I have been watching for them since they have been reported near here on LABIRD. The Goldfinch flock now numbers about 100 and the Purple Finch pair find it difficult to get a spot at the sunflower feeders. House Finches number about a dozen while White-throated Sparrow numbers remain at 30 to 40 per day. Now I also have a flock of 50 Red-winged Blackbirds and Brown-headed Cowbirds. Today has been a frantic feeding day. Sue Wilson Folsom, LA Northwest St. Tammany Parish
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Pine Siskins and goldfinches From: Van Remsen <najames(AT)unix1.sncc.lsu.edu> Date: 10 Jan 2001 5:00pm On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Larry & Sue Wilson wrote: > The Goldfinch flock now numbers about 100 ... > Today has been a > frantic feeding day. Sue/LABIRD: likewise a frantic morning at my feeders nr. St. Gabriel, Iberville Parish, with a major influx of Am. Goldfinches -- at least 275 in view at once at the feeder. If this is a typical winter, goldfinch numbers will at least double in next two weeks. ################################# Van Remsen, LSU Museum of Natural Science, najames(AT)unix1.sncc.lsu.edu
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: goldfinches From: Peggy Siegert <PEGSIEGERT(AT)CS.COM> Date: 10 Jan 2001 5:59pm <<If this is a typical winter, goldfinch numbers will at least double in next two weeks.>> If so, that means I'll have 4 during the next two weeks. Since the 99/00 season, there has been a dramatic change in central Slidell. Peggy Siegert Slidell, LA zone 8b ****************
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: goldfinches From: James Beck <buteo(AT)WORLDNET.ATT.NET> Date: 10 Jan 2001 6:44pm All, I noticed quite a few goldfinches last week at Steve Cardiff's feeders, the most I've seen at one time in quite a while. No siskins... James ________________________________________________________________ James Beck Metairie, LA buteo(AT)worldnet.att.net
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Insectivorous bird void - a northern note From: Matt Pontiff <m_pontiff(AT)HOTMAIL.COM> Date: 10 Jan 2001 6:53pm my point is that the am. robin/holly >interactions do not normally commence until the last week of january (and >much more so by mid to late february) here in lafayette. so these birds are >about a month early, which means that they've obviously run out of early & >mid-winter foods. > >bill fontenot >acadiana park nature station >lafayette, la. Bill,LaBird, Here at Ft Polk, the Am. Robin and Cedar Waxwings have started in on the privet hedges weeks early. Usually the first week of February is when they start feeding on the fruit. Gary > >################################# _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Pink-sided, Slate-colored or Oregon Junco? From: Bill Wood <labirder(AT)SHREVE.NET> Date: 10 Jan 2001 6:57pm LaBirders and all, I played hooky today and stay home with a cold spending the hours watching the birds out back. I have a good 50 plus Slate-colored Juncos around with several that show a hint of pink in the sides. Around noon I noticed a VERY pink-sided junco on an old tree stump feeding on seed. It was facing me and the pink sides really stood out. When I got a side view I could distinguish a contrasting light blue-gray hood against a white belly, pink sides, and a back that was reddish brown. I didn't notice any black lores but I thought for sure I had a Pink-sided Junco. That is, until I start reading David Sibley's Guide to the Birds and his accounts of Dark-eyed Juncos. Looking at Sibley's plates (page 500, 501) the contrast between the head and back wasn't as pronounced as the "Oregon" Junco. Because of that I ruled out them out. I was almost ready to call it a pink-sided Junco until I read that the Canadian Rocky Mountains ( CRM ) race of "slate-colored" Junco can show well defined pinks sides. The CRM doesn't seem to show as much contrast from the hood and back (page 501) as the bird I saw today. I also looked at Rising's Sparrows of the U.S. and Canada and the bird I saw looks like the adult Pink-sided Junco ( example 48n, opposite plate 21). Is there anything else I should be looking for to separate the pink-sided from all others? Thanks in advance and as always, Good Birding, Bill Wood Keithville, LA 3 miles south of Shreveport As always, Good Birding, Bill Wood Keithville, LA 3 miles south of Shreveport
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Pine Siskins From: Bill Wood <labirder(AT)SHREVE.NET> Date: 10 Jan 2001 7:09pm Sue, Van and LaBirds, Ditto here in NW Louisiana. At least 100 Goldfinches, two Pine Siskins and pair of Purple Finches here at "The Oaks". I noticed the feeding madness began this morning and it has gone on all day. Along with a single Brown Creeper, there are tons of Juncos, Chipping Sparrows and Northern Cardinals. The Pine Warblers and White-breasted Nuthatches are hitting the suet a lot and I'm seeing more White-throated Sparrows today. It was a biting cold here today with chances of sleet and rain for tonight. Maybe that sparked the frantic feeding? At 04:42 PM 1/10/2001, Sue Wilson wrote: >Two Pine Siskins were among the Goldfinches at the thistle feeders this >morning. I have been watching for them since they have been reported near >here on LABIRD. The Goldfinch flock now numbers about 100 and the Purple >Finch pair find it difficult to get a spot at the sunflower >feeders. House Finches number about a dozen while White-throated Sparrow >numbers remain at 30 to 40 per day. Now I also have a flock of 50 >Red-winged Blackbirds and Brown-headed Cowbirds. Today has been a frantic >feeding day. As always, Good Birding, Bill Wood Keithville, LA 3 miles south of Shreveport
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Pink-sided, Slate-colored or Oregon Junco? From: Paul Dickson <Paul(AT)MORRISDICKSON.COM> Date: 10 Jan 2001 10:01pm Bill: I have always been fascinated by Juncos. The definitive work on this variable species was done way back in 1938 by Alden Miller and was published by the University of California. "Speciation in the Genus Junco" was thorough and nothing substantial has been added to his analysis in the 63 years since. Despite this situation, it seems that much confusion and interest continues to swirl around Juncos. I had access to Miller's monograph in the late 70's and have it in my library now and have referred to it through years of Junco watching. The tendency for Juncos of various races to form mixed flocks in winter accounts for much of the interest in them as does this high degree of variation between geographic races. I did a lot of field research in southeastern Colorado in the winter of 1982 and much enjoyed watching Junco flocks there. You could find just about every form there, even all in one large flock at times. Here in NW La. we get about 10 percent Junco hyemalis cismontanus, the form from the eastern slope of the northern Rocky Mountains. I believe that we also get about 2 percent J.h.mearnsi. The form whose range is centered on the Yellowstone Plateau that is called "pink-sided junco" in the field guides. The birds such as the one you describe may be of this race but they also could be intergrades of more northerly Rocky Mountain forms. You won't find detail of that in any field guide or recent book because they are so hard to separate in the field with any degree of confidence. Of course 90 percent of our birds are J.h.hyemalis, the slate colored Junco of the central continent. We also have a few records of J.h.caniceps, the gray-headed Junco of the southern Rocky Mountains. The most recent of those few caniceps records was just last winter. Lastly, we have one specimen record and one photograph of intergrades of caniceps and mearnsi which would have to come from the borders of Colorado, Wyoming, and Utah where caniceps and mearnsi overlap. Miller describes "Oregon type Juncos" including mearnsi as having a hood which is convex posteriorly. Rising points out that the hood in mearnsi is convex at its edge on the breast as well. J.h.cismontanus has a less distinct hood resulting in a concave edge at the breast instead. I fault all of the latter authors with brushing over what Miller made clear way back in '38, that there are intergrades of all of these forms that do not exactly fit the type descriptions. Specifically, Miller details J.h.oreganus x J.h.cismontanus intergrades that are separate geographically but somewhat similar in appearance to J.h.mearnsi. Unless taxonomy is your fetish, don't lose sleep over your brown, rusty, pink, salmon, or whatever sided Juncos. Such a bird is no doubt from the eastern slope or inner valleys of the Rocky Mountains north of Colorado and south of Alaska. The gray ones could be from Alaska or Newfoundland or anywhere in between. Just keep your eye and camera out for one with white wing bars. If you see such a bird, go to Rising's book to see if it's the one from Ontario or the Black Hills. We have no NW La. record of either of those. I going to look for American Tree Sparrows tomorrow and I'm going to stand six feet from the corner of the Louisiana border with Texas and Arkansas if I can. Paul Dickson -----Original Message----- From: Bill Wood [mailto:labirder(AT)SHREVE.NET] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 6:57 PM To: LABIRD-L(AT)listserv.lsu.edu Subject: Pink-sided, Slate-colored or Oregon Junco? LaBirders and all, I played hooky today and stay home with a cold spending the hours watching the birds out back. I have a good 50 plus Slate-colored Juncos around with several that show a hint of pink in the sides. Around noon I noticed a VERY pink-sided junco on an old tree stump feeding on seed. It was facing me and the pink sides really stood out. When I got a side view I could distinguish a contrasting light blue-gray hood against a white belly, pink sides, and a back that was reddish brown. I didn't notice any black lores but I thought for sure I had a Pink-sided Junco. That is, until I start reading David Sibley's Guide to the Birds and his accounts of Dark-eyed Juncos. Looking at Sibley's plates (page 500, 501) the contrast between the head and back wasn't as pronounced as the "Oregon" Junco. Because of that I ruled out them out. I was almost ready to call it a pink-sided Junco until I read that the Canadian Rocky Mountains ( CRM ) race of "slate-colored" Junco can show well defined pinks sides. The CRM doesn't seem to show as much contrast from the hood and back (page 501) as the bird I saw today. I also looked at Rising's Sparrows of the U.S. and Canada and the bird I saw looks like the adult Pink-sided Junco ( example 48n, opposite plate 21). Is there anything else I should be looking for to separate the pink-sided from all others? Thanks in advance and as always, Good Birding, Bill Wood Keithville, LA 3 miles south of Shreveport As always, Good Birding, Bill Wood Keithville, LA 3 miles south of Shreveport
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Birds of Note - Girard Park, Lafayette, Louisiana - Lafayette Parish From: "Jay V. Huner" <jjhuner(AT)MINDSPRING.COM> Date: 10 Jan 2001 10:22pm I walked around the small "waterfowl" pond in Lafayette's Girard Park around noon today. I found Mallards that appeared to be wild mallards and a lone Northern Pintail Drake. Turkey Vultures circled overhead - 3 new birds for the UL Lafayette "Campus" Bird List. I saw three cormorants perched on branches on the small island in the middle of the pond. They were clearly Neotropic Cormorants with the clear narrow white border outlining the throat patch as was another feeding bird in the water. So the cormorants constituted another new bird for the list. Jay Huner
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: frugivores - Western St. Martin Parish - UL Lafayerte Farm From: "Jay V. Huner" <jjhuner(AT)MINDSPRING.COM> Date: 10 Jan 2001 10:58pm Hi there, Everything is "relative". The Vernon Parish area - Pitkin and the grosbeak - had NORMAL rainfall. There is all sorts of "fruits and berries" there. I picked up at least 4 different Gray Catbirds there from 22-26 December 2000. Haven't seen a catbird since October to the "South". Bill Fontenot tells me that the catbirds are "unusual" at this "northern" location. Clearly, insectivores "gobble" "fruit" in the winter. Bill has kept up with this and, I believe, Wiley Barrow has been documenting this with his work through the National Wetlands Research Center. Watch the "warblers". They are "skimming" the tallow tree seeds to "gleen" fatty materials. Things like the bluebirds, blackbirds, and Red-bellied Woodpeckers are just flat EATING them. I am seeing just as many Ruby-crowned Kinglets as I saw last year at our UL Lafayette Farm and am seeing more Orange-crowned Warbers, Pine Warblers, Wilson's Warblers, and Common Yellowthroats than I saw last year - very likely because I can distinguish the species, one from another, and couldn't a year ago - take heart neophyte birders! But, we have a goodly amount of fruit and berries because, despite the drought, we had enough rain to support our plants because of our unique micro-climate where the prairie abuts the forested wetland delta. The species that winter in our area clearly, based on Bill Fontenot's work, can make it here because they can eat fruits and berries FULL of calories. For what it is worth, haven't had trouble finding Hermit Thrushes at the UL Lafayette Farm if I went "looking for them" but they simply aren't as abundant as Yellow-rumped Warblers are Carolina Wrens. Jay H. PS-If you've gotten this farm, I am not promoting the UL Lafayette Farm. It is simply the place that I have birded intensively since October 1999 because that is where my shed/office is located. -----Original Message----- From: Van Remsen <najames(AT)unix1.sncc.lsu.edu> To: LABIRD-L(AT)listserv.lsu.edu <LABIRD-L(AT)listserv.lsu.edu> Date: January 10, 2001 1:29 PM Subject: Re: frugivores >On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Bill Fontenot wrote: > >> even the larger, more dedicated frugivores are having problems finding food >> down here this winter. >> .... anyway, my point is that the am. robin/holly >> interactions do not normally commence until the last week of january (and >> much more so by mid to late february) here in lafayette. so these birds are >> about a month early, which means that they've obviously run out of early & >> mid-winter foods. > >Bill/LABIRD: ditto at my place, where Robins are now working over Waxleaf >Ligustrum fruit (first time ever at my place), wet spots on forest floor, >and even the lawn (normally a February behavior at my place). The one >Sugarberry tree that produced some fruit, however, still has enough to >keep a few birds busy. Still no action on the Deciduous Holly, however -- >usually the last fruit that the frugivores go after (and some winters, >they don't even touch it). > >################################# > >Van Remsen, > LSU Museum of Natural Science, > najames(AT)unix1.sncc.lsu.edu
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