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BIRDCHAT for Tuesday, May 6, 2008

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 Subject From Time 
 Re: Osprey Behavior  JASJCSJSS(AT)aol.com  6:30am 
 Re: The Toughest Migration of Them All  katahdinss@comcast.n  9:49am 
 BIRDLIFE NEWS ALERT  Carol Anderson  12:13pm 
 CSU Bakersfield Owl Cam  Chris Van Beveren   3:36pm 
 RFI: Tahiti birding?  TAHARRISON(AT)aol.com  3:39pm 
 =?windows-1252?Q?What_Happened_to_My_Phoebes=3F?=  =?windows-1252?Q?Ste  3:44pm 
 Grosbeak crossbreed  Pat Burden   4:54pm 
 Re: CSU Bakersfield Owl Cam  Hilary Powers   5:18pm 
 new link for Grosbeak pictures  Pat Burden   6:21pm 
 Re: The Toughest Migration of Them All  Chuck & Lillian   7:13pm 
 New Orleans French Quarter Birding information  Chuck & Jaye Otte  8:26pm 
 Re: CSU Bakersfield Owl Cam  Hilary Powers   9:13pm 
 Re: CSU Bakersfield Owl Cam  Chris Van Beveren   10:40pm 
 Re: New Orleans French Quarter Birding information  Chris Van Beveren   10:47pm 
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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Osprey Behavior From: JASJCSJSS(AT)aol.com Date: 6 May 2008 6:30am Long-time subscriber; first-time poster. My family spent the weekend of April 18-20 in Portland, ME. Our lodging was on the seventh floor of a hotel downtown. At 7:30 Sunday morning, I watched out the window, as several herring and great black-backed gulls scavenged below, to see an osprey appear, swoop down towards a dead eastern white pine tree on the perimeter of a parking lot, grab a three-foot long dead branch still attached and near the top of the thirty-foot tree, then circle various times while gaining altitude. The bird eventually landed at the highest spot in the area, the top of a communications structure atop the Eastland Park Hotel, approximately fourteen stories up. It appeared to be adding to a nest structure. Jerry A. Smith Orrington, ME 04474 jasjcsjss(AT)aol.com **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: The Toughest Migration of Them All From: katahdinss(AT)comcast.net (Gail B. Mackiernan <katahdinss@comcast.net>) Date: 6 May 2008 9:49am Actually there have been no Siberian Cranes at Bharatpur since 2002, the central population to which these birds belonged is considered to be extinct. There are two remaining populations. The few remaining western birds winter in Iran, probably not the safest place to be! The eastern population actually has a longer migration route, per the Siberian Crane Wetlands Project, flying about 3000 miles from Siberian breeding grounds to their wintering areas in China. Gail Mackiernan Colesville, MD -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: James McAllister <macsnest(AT)MNSI.NET> > Hi again Bill, > > Talking of cranes, I forgot the Siberian crane which flies from northern > Siberia over the Himalayas and winters at Bharatpur in central India. > > Jim BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: BIRDLIFE NEWS ALERT From: "Carol Anderson" <mayancarol(AT)gmail.com> Date: 6 May 2008 12:13pm New report shows EU biofuel policy likely to cause worldwide environmental destruction http://www.birdlife.org/news/news/2008/05/biofuels_report.html Please tell me if this is bugging anyone. I thought this article was pretty important. I have no idea how many of you already subscribe and I don't want to be a pest. -- Carol C. Anderson San Pedro La Laguna Guatemala mail to: mayancarol(AT)gmail.com www.monterey-bay.net/birds BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: CSU Bakersfield Owl Cam From: Chris Van Beveren <becktravel(AT)yahoo.com> Date: 6 May 2008 3:36pm I have been watching the little owlets grow into big baby owls for some time. Yesterday they had most of their feathers, but fluff around their legs and fluffy heads. Today the nest site is empty. Did anyone see them leave the nest? or did it happen in the dark? Chris Van Beveren Beck Travel 10921 Oso Ave. Chatsworth, Ca. 91311 Phone: 818-998-3122 Fax: 818-998-3588 becktravel(AT)yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: RFI: Tahiti birding? From: TAHARRISON(AT)aol.com Date: 6 May 2008 3:39pm Birdchatters, I have a (very fortunate) friend who is planning a trip to Tahiti. Do you have any birding advice for him? Specifically, any guides who could take him out birding? If so, please fell free to reply directly to Russ Chandler at _erchandler(AT)aol.com_ (mailto:erchandler(AT)aol.com) On an unrelated note, I had a birdbrained California Thrasher strolling on the road next to my house this morning. I pulled up in my car and he wasn't spooked. I counseled him to get the heck out of the road and go to my feeder. Tom Harrison Glendale, CA USA **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?What_Happened_to_My_Phoebes=3F?= From: =?windows-1252?Q?Steve_Moore?= <steve(AT)BIRDWATCHRADIO.COM> Date: 6 May 2008 3:44pm My family has been watching a nest of Phoebes that was built on our gutter pipe about twenty feet from our deck. The birds hatched approximately twelve days ago and the parents both worked non-stop. To our dismay all activity abruptly stopped two days ago and both parents are completely gone. It seemed a little too soon for them all to fledge so I just climbed up to the nest. I found four nestlings all covered with feathers but not real flight feathers yet....all dead. They don't seem to be maimed in any way. Any thoughts on what may have happened? There hasn't been anything weather related, the nest is well covered and it's hard to believe that something would have happened to both parents at the same time? Very sad. Thanks, Steve Moore Gainesville, GA BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Grosbeak crossbreed From: Pat Burden <tallerpat(AT)aol.com> Date: 6 May 2008 4:54pm I have a bird in my yard that has features of both the female Rose-breasted Grosbeak and the female Black-headed Grosbeak.? I am thinking it may be a cross between the two. Photos are here: http://www.grovestreet.com/jsp/userhome.jsp I have searched for photos of crosses, but have found nothing. I would appreciate your input. Thanks, Pat Burden Yale, MI PS These pictures were taken today in my yard in southern Sanilac County, Michigan BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: CSU Bakersfield Owl Cam From: Hilary Powers <hilary(AT)powersedit.com> Date: 6 May 2008 5:18pm Chris Van Beveren wrote: > I have been watching the little owlets grow into big baby owls for > some time. Yesterday they had most of their feathers, but fluff > around their legs and fluffy heads. Today the nest site is empty. Did > anyone see them leave the nest? or did it happen in the dark? Hard to tell if they're really gone or just wandered out of sight - but I haven't seen them today, either. The time lapse video ends in the early afternoon yesterday, and you're right, they're awfully fluffy to have flown the nest for good. (If you let the video play out, you can control the movement of the frame with the arrow keys and actually see the sequence without getting seasick.) -- - Hilary Powers - hilary(AT)powersedit.com - Oakland CA - - Freelance copyediting and developmental editing - - Author: "Making Word Work for You" - available now - - www.lulu.com/content/1175135 - - The edit you want, when you want it done. - BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: new link for Grosbeak pictures From: Pat Burden <tallerpat(AT)aol.com> Date: 6 May 2008 6:21pm Apparently I posted the wrong link before.? I am very sorry.? This should work without signing in, etc. http://www.grovestreet.com/jsp/picview.jsp?album=88715 Thanks, Pat BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: The Toughest Migration of Them All From: Chuck & Lillian <misclists(AT)att.net> Date: 6 May 2008 7:13pm The Northern Wheatear - I have read - has the longest annual migration of any passerine. From their wintering grounds in South Africa, they migrate both northeast and northwest, many of them entering into the Arctic New World moving eastward from Siberia as well as westward from Iceland. It is believed (or known) that these two routes actually cross one another in central Canada. Cranes can soar and terns can sleep on the water; the wheatear does neither. Chuck Almdale North Hills, CA At 12:03 AM 5/6/2008, BIRDCHAT automatic digest system wrote: >Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 13:21:25 -0500 >From: Bill Saur <bsaur(AT)EARTHLINK.NET> >Subject: The Toughest Migration of Them All > >Hello: >This time of year with bird migration on my mind, I decided to write an article entitled "The Toughest Migration of Them All". My vote goes to the Demoiselle Crane and if anybody knows of a tougher one they might consider leaving behind a comment. The article is posted here: BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: New Orleans French Quarter Birding information From: "Chuck & Jaye Otte" <otte2(AT)cox.net> Date: 6 May 2008 8:26pm I'll be in New Orleans for meetings in a couple of weeks. I'm staying in the middle of the French Quarter and will be car-less. Any suggestions on locations for birding would be greatly appreciated. I'll have an afternoon evening and a morning to spend padding my Louisiana list. Thanks for any insight anyone can share! Chuck +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chuck & Jaye Otte mailto:otte2(AT)cox.net 613 Tamerisk Junction City Kansas USA 66441 785-238-8800 BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: CSU Bakersfield Owl Cam From: Hilary Powers <hilary(AT)powersedit.com> Date: 6 May 2008 9:13pm Ann Patmythes-Keys wrote: > Hi Owlet watchers!!! > I just visited the site and one owlet is there. I did visit the site > about this time yesterday and they were both there. Then > one took off with the other just watching it fly. It came back and then > they both took off for some exercise. Do you feel that > the mother is still providing them with food? If they're anything like peregrines, yes - peregrine parents bring their kids takeout whenever they yell for it, from the time they fledge until they're ready to move away - often 6 weeks or more. Makes sense - instinct can do only so much; hunting still has elements of a learned skill, and it'd waste the parents' investment to cut the young birds off before they're ready to feed themselves. They don't have to worry about boomerang kids; young raptors have all the incentive they need to strike out on their own, built in. -- - Hilary Powers - hilary(AT)powersedit.com - Oakland CA - - Freelance copyediting and developmental editing - - Author: "Making Word Work for You" - available now - - www.lulu.com/content/1175135 - - The edit you want, when you want it done. - BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: CSU Bakersfield Owl Cam From: Chris Van Beveren <becktravel(AT)yahoo.com> Date: 6 May 2008 10:40pm I checked about 7:30PM and one owlet, the youngest I think, was visible for 15 minutes, then I saw him, or her, jump off the ledge - whether into the abyss, or just into the vine you can see growing up to the nest area, I do not know. I have no way of knowing this for sure, but I had the feeling the mother owl was out there, calling to it to make the jump. Goodbye little owls. See you next year, Mama Owl. Stay safe, I will miss you. Chris Van Beveren Beck Travel 10921 Oso Ave. Chatsworth, Ca. 91311 Phone: 818-998-3122 Fax: 818-998-3588 becktravel(AT)yahoo.com ----- Original Message ---- From: Hilary Powers <hilary(AT)POWERSEDIT.COM> To: BIRDCHAT(AT)LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2008 9:14:11 PM Subject: Re: [BIRDCHAT] CSU Bakersfield Owl Cam Ann Patmythes-Keys wrote: > Hi Owlet watchers!!! > I just visited the site and one owlet is there. I did visit the site > about this time yesterday and they were both there. Then > one took off with the other just watching it fly. It came back and then > they both took off for some exercise. Do you feel that > the mother is still providing them with food? If they're anything like peregrines, yes - peregrine parents bring their kids takeout whenever they yell for it, from the time they fledge until they're ready to move away - often 6 weeks or more. Makes sense - instinct can do only so much; hunting still has elements of a learned skill, and it'd waste the parents' investment to cut the young birds off before they're ready to feed themselves. They don't have to worry about boomerang kids; young raptors have all the incentive they need to strike out on their own, built in. -- - Hilary Powers - hilary(AT)powersedit.com - Oakland CA - - Freelance copyediting and developmental editing - - Author: "Making Word Work for You" - available now - - www.lulu.com/content/1175135 - - The edit you want, when you want it done. - BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: New Orleans French Quarter Birding information From: Chris Van Beveren <becktravel(AT)yahoo.com> Date: 6 May 2008 10:47pm You could try Louis Armstrong Park, which is just across the street from the northwest side of the Quarter, so reachable on foot. Also, the St Charles Streetcar runs to the southwest for several miles, passing Tulane University and the Zoo, and there are some open areas with trees out there. The Quarter itself is quite built out, not much there except for pigeons in front of the church on the main square. You could start with those, although someone who knows New Orleans better than as a visitor could probably give you more suggestions. Chris Van Beveren Beck Travel 10921 Oso Ave. Chatsworth, Ca. 91311 Phone: 818-998-3122 Fax: 818-998-3588 becktravel(AT)yahoo.com ----- Original Message ---- From: Chuck & Jaye Otte <otte2(AT)COX.NET> To: BIRDCHAT(AT)LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2008 8:27:10 PM Subject: [BIRDCHAT] New Orleans French Quarter Birding information I'll be in New Orleans for meetings in a couple of weeks. I'm staying in the middle of the French Quarter and will be car-less. Any suggestions on locations for birding would be greatly appreciated. I'll have an afternoon evening and a morning to spend padding my Louisiana list. Thanks for any insight anyone can share! Chuck +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chuck & Jaye Otte mailto:otte2(AT)cox.net 613 Tamerisk Junction City Kansas USA 66441 785-238-8800 BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html

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