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Subject: Looking for Field Guide of Argentina
From: "Canyon Wren" <canyonwren(AT)comcast.net>
Date: 26 Apr 2008 7:44am
Hi Birders,
I am looking to purchase a copy in ENGLISH of Birds of Argentina and Uruguay: A
Field Guide by Tito Narosky, Dario Yzuriga, Hector Rivarola.
I am specificially interested in the October 2004 Edition. I have two ISBNs for
this book.
These are
ISBN-10: 987913205X
ISBN-13 978-9879132050
If YOU HAVE A COPY THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO SELL, please let me know.
Thank you and Good Birding!
Lynea
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Michigan City, Indiana
Heart of the Indiana Dunes
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one can be again." William Beebe
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Subject: White throated sparrow nesting behavior?
From: "Bill Jones" <wejones(AT)megalink.net>
Date: 26 Apr 2008 9:02am
It's been many years since I've posted here, so I hope this is an appropriate
topic.
Anyway, I am curious whether anyone has noticed behavior that I've been
seeing recently. We've had some white throated sparrows near our house this
spring, near our feeders, flying around and singing, while snow was still on
the ground. However a few days ago, when we looked out at the now bare
ground under one of our feeders, my wife said a small rodent, smaller than a
chipmunk ran along the ground to cover nearby. The next day, I saw the same
thing, but it was a bird. It wasn't flying at all, but running, quite fast,
so fast that you don't have time to focus binoculars on it. I saw this two or
three times, each time it ran to a clump of very small hemlocks that were only
about 2' tall. The next day, I walked down to this clump, heard a rustling
and the bird ran out from under the clump, over to some other low cover. Each
time, this bird never flew, but ran along the ground, for up to 30' to the
next cover. It is apparently nesting under this small hemlock clump Didn't
get a real good look at it, but it looked like a smallish white throated
sparrow. I've never seen a white throated sparrow behave like this, so I was
doubtful that it was a white throat. Then I got a somewhat better look at it
from behind, and noticed that it was a bit more streaked on it's back than
most of the white throated sparrows I've seen. I decided to look through the
behavior paragraphs for sparrows, and ran across the behavior for a Savanah
sparrow that sounded identical to what I observed, so I was convinced that we
had savanah sparrows nesting there.
Finally, however, we got a good look at the bird from the front, and it is
definately a white throated sparrow. However, it is smaller than the other
white throated sparrow I've seen this spring.
So I am confused. Is this behavior common for white throated sparrows
during nesting??? I would almost think that the bird was injured, except that
one time when I flushed him, it did fly about 4' up to a short shrub. However
generally, whenever flushed, this bird never leaves the ground, but runs and
hides in the nearest ground-cover. I'm assuming that it's nesting, since any
time I don't see it feeding, I can always find it hiding under the same
hemlock shrub, not only under the hemlock branches, but also under a layer of
leaf clutter that has collected under the hemlock. It's possible that this is
common nesting behavior, and I've just never seen them nesting before, as
we're a bit near the southern edge of the nesting range (southwest Maine).
Plus, just a couple weeks ago, these sparrows were not timid at all, and were
flying around tree to tree much of the day.
Thanks for any comments.
Bill Jones N3JLQ
Sweden Maine
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Subject: Re: Editorial in PENNSYLVANIA BIRDS on state
journals
From: Jim Williams <two-jays(AT)att.net>
Date: 26 Apr 2008 10:31am
Interesting comments. I am in the midst of collecting family
information and photographs for my children, grandchildren, and
beyond. Some time ago I put much of it on video tape. That is a
technology going going gone. CDs will work, for a while. Ditto DVDs.
Printing, photos and words on acid-free paper, is the only technology
guaranteed to last, be it family or bird records.
Jim Williams
Wayzata, Minnesota
On Apr 26, 2008, at 1:06 AM, Ted Floyd wrote:
Hello, BirdChatters.
There's a thought-provoking editorial in the current issue of the
journal Pennsylvania Birds. Topic is state/regional print journals in
the online era; author is Geoff Malosh, Editor-in-Chief of
Pennsylvania Birds. The editorial is available as a free download
from the Pennsylvania Society for Ornithology website: http://
www.pabirds.org/pabirds/CurrentSample/V21N4_Editorial.pdf
Geoff's editorial converges on several points that were brought out
by Paul Lehman in a recent commentary in Birding: http://
www.americanbirding.org/birding/v40n1p36.pdf
Reactions, anybody?
Ted Floyd
tedfloyd57(AT)hotmail.com
Lafayette, Boulder County, Colorado
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Subject: Fwd: Re: Editorial in PENNSYLVANIA BIRDS on state journals
From: Phil Davis <pdavis(AT)ix.netcom.com>
Date: 26 Apr 2008 11:39am
Hi Chatters:
FYI. A forward from Geoff Malosh, below ...
I also had a private comment from someone else who voiced a concern
about putting the current issues of their state journal on-line. I
think the "two year" behind policy is appropriate.
Perhaps current issues could also be made available to out-of-state
researchers or other records committees via password-controlled access.
Phil
>From: "Geoff Malosh" <pomarine(AT)earthlink.net>
>To: <pdavis(AT)ix.netcom.com>,
> <tedfloyd57(AT)HOTMAIL.COM>
>Subject: Re: Editorial in PENNSYLVANIA BIRDS on state journals
>Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:36:10 -0400
>
>Hi Phil (and Ted),
>
>You make a great point, and to that point note that PSO does put
>back issues of Pennsylvania Birds online. All issues other than the
>eight most recent (i.e., the most recent two years) can be found at:
>
><http://www.pabirds.org/PABIRDS/BackIssues/Index.html>http://www.pabirds.org/PABIRDS/BackIssues/Index.html
>
>
>As each new issue is published, the next in line is put on the
>website. For example the next issue to be published is Volume 22
>Number 1, and when that hits mailboxes, Volume 20 number 1 will be
>placed online, and so on.
>
>I don't subscribe to BirdChat and even if I sign up now I guess I
>have to wait two weeks to post anything, so if you'd like to forward
>this to BirdChat as an example of the type on online archive you
>discussed, please do.
>
>Regards,
>
>Geoff
>
>Geoff Malosh | Editor, Pennsylvania Birds
>
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Subject: Re: White throated sparrow nesting behavior?
From: Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman(AT)yahoo.com>
Date: 26 Apr 2008 3:26pm
Hi. This sounds like the "rodent run" known from other members
of the family. Apparently it's believed to lure predators away
from the nest. One description (for the Green-tailed Towhee)
is at <www.monolake.org/images/bomgtto.pdf>.
Jerry Friedman
--- On Sat, 4/26/08, Bill Jones <wejones(AT)MEGALINK.NET> wrote:
> From: Bill Jones <wejones(AT)MEGALINK.NET>
> Subject: [BIRDCHAT] White throated sparrow nesting behavior?
> To: BIRDCHAT(AT)LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Date: Saturday, April 26, 2008, 10:01 AM
> It's been many years since I've posted here, so I
> hope this is an appropriate
> topic.
> Anyway, I am curious whether anyone has noticed behavior
> that I've been
> seeing recently. We've had some white throated
> sparrows near our house this
> spring, near our feeders, flying around and singing, while
> snow was still on
> the ground. However a few days ago, when we looked out at
> the now bare
> ground under one of our feeders, my wife said a small
> rodent, smaller than a
> chipmunk ran along the ground to cover nearby. The next
> day, I saw the same
> thing, but it was a bird. It wasn't flying at all, but
> running, quite fast,
> so fast that you don't have time to focus binoculars on
> it. I saw this two or
> three times, each time it ran to a clump of very small
> hemlocks that were only
> about 2' tall. The next day, I walked down to this
> clump, heard a rustling
> and the bird ran out from under the clump, over to some
> other low cover. Each
> time, this bird never flew, but ran along the ground, for
> up to 30' to the
> next cover. It is apparently nesting under this small
> hemlock clump Didn't
> get a real good look at it, but it looked like a smallish
> white throated
> sparrow. I've never seen a white throated sparrow
> behave like this, so I was
> doubtful that it was a white throat. Then I got a somewhat
> better look at it
> from behind, and noticed that it was a bit more streaked on
> it's back than
> most of the white throated sparrows I've seen. I
> decided to look through the
> behavior paragraphs for sparrows, and ran across the
> behavior for a Savanah
> sparrow that sounded identical to what I observed, so I was
> convinced that we
> had savanah sparrows nesting there.
> Finally, however, we got a good look at the bird from
> the front, and it is
> definately a white throated sparrow. However, it is
> smaller than the other
> white throated sparrow I've seen this spring.
> So I am confused. Is this behavior common for white
> throated sparrows
> during nesting??? I would almost think that the bird was
> injured, except that
> one time when I flushed him, it did fly about 4' up to
> a short shrub. However
> generally, whenever flushed, this bird never leaves the
> ground, but runs and
> hides in the nearest ground-cover. I'm assuming that
> it's nesting, since any
> time I don't see it feeding, I can always find it
> hiding under the same
> hemlock shrub, not only under the hemlock branches, but
> also under a layer of
> leaf clutter that has collected under the hemlock.
> It's possible that this is
> common nesting behavior, and I've just never seen them
> nesting before, as
> we're a bit near the southern edge of the nesting range
> (southwest Maine).
> Plus, just a couple weeks ago, these sparrows were not
> timid at all, and were
> flying around tree to tree much of the day.
>
> Thanks for any comments.
>
>
> Bill Jones N3JLQ
> Sweden Maine
> wejones(AT)megalink.net
> http://www.megalink.net/~wejones
>
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Subject: Green-winged Teal or Eurasian Teal
From: "Eddie Chapman" <echapman(AT)online.no>
Date: 26 Apr 2008 9:32pm
Hallo all,
There is a discussion going on at the moment in a local birding group. A
Green-winged Teal was reported, which is a good observation here in Norway.
The male bird in the centre of the picture shows the characteristic vertical
white stripe on the side. However if you look closely at the photo, you can
also make out a very thin horizontal white stripe as is normal with Eurasian
Teal. I have not seen the bird but the discussion is if it is a hybrid or if
Green-winged Teal can sometimes show a little white like the bird in the
picture. Check this link:
http://www.nofbuskerud.net/Linnesstranda/images/AmerikakrikkandJMY2008-1.jpg
Regards,
Eddie Chapman, Voss, Norway.
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Subject: Cold front shuts down migration
From: "R.D. Everhart" <everhart(AT)black-hole.com>
Date: 26 Apr 2008 11:22pm
Tonight's weather map shows no movement north of this strong cold
front that moved through the upper midwest Friday and Saturday. There
is some movement in the Ohio River Valley ahead of the storm front.
Tonight's map is posted at:
http://minnesotabirdnerd.blogspot.com
Stay Warm!
Roger Everhart
Apple Valley, MN
www.ncbo.org
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