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BIRDCHAT for Thursday, April 3, 2008

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 Call for Papers: Western Field Ornithologists 2008 conference  Ted Floyd   3:13am 
 =?windows-1252?Q?Re:_North_America_Field_Guides---How_do_they_rate=3F?=  =?windows-1252?Q?Ste  7:55am 
 my bird list from my visit to western kansas/nebraska  Devorah Bennu   8:19am 
 Re: Birders in the world  Bird Uganda Safaris  8:29am 
 Field Guides  Gorton, Gregg  8:48am 
 Re: North America Field Guides---How do they rate?  John Beetham  9:10am 
 =?windows-1252?Q?Re:_Birders_in_the_world?=  =?windows-1252?Q?Ric  9:12am 
 Re: Field Guides  Peter Burke  9:24am 
 Re:RTP is best for beginners  Dendroica(AT)aol.com  9:51am 
 James Coe's Golden Guide for Beginners  Matthew Medler  10:08am 
 =?windows-1252?Q?field_guides?=  =?windows-1252?Q?Rob  11:29am 
 Re: Field Guides  John Walters   11:35am 
 Illustrating the experience  Guttman,Burton  2:54pm 
 Re: Fwd: ESPN.com: Hawk attacks schoolgirl taking tour of Fenway Park  Katharine Mills   6:23pm 
 Fwd: ESPN.com: Hawk attacks schoolgirl taking tour of Fenway Park  Jennifer Rycenga   6:16pm 
 Re: ESPN.com: Hawk attacks schoolgirl taking tour of Fenway Park  John MacArthur   6:31pm 
 Re: Fwd: ESPN.com: Hawk attacks schoolgirl taking tour of Fenway Park  Marcy S Gamber  6:59pm 
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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Call for Papers: Western Field Ornithologists 2008 conference From: Ted Floyd <tedfloyd57(AT)hotmail.com> Date: 3 Apr 2008 3:13am Hello, BirdChatters. I append below the Call for Papers for the 2008 WFO (Western Field Ornithologists) annual conference, to be held October 9-12, 2008, in San Mateo, California. (San Mateo is in the Bay Area, just south of San Francisco.) For a general overview of the conference, check out: http://www.wfo-cbrc.org/ More details at: http://www.wfo-cbrc.org/33rd%20Annual%20Meeting.pdf Looks to be a great meeting, with superb speakers (keynote address by Carla Cicero), fantastic field trips (including special pelagics offered by Shearwater Journeys), a fine mix of workshops and expert panels, and the usual camaraderie that is so characteristic of WFO meetings. And something else: Lots of new blood at WFO these days, with important contributions from a great new crop of young field ornithologists, and a generally high level of enthusiasm and ambition in the organization. Ted Floyd tedfloyd57(AT)hotmail.com Lafayette, Boulder County, Colorado +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Call for Papers for the 33rd Annual Meeting of Western Field Ornithologists Abstracts are now being accepted for presentations at the 33rd annual meeting of Western Field Ornithologists, to be held 9–12 October 2008 in San Mateo, California. Oral presentations should reflect original research or summarize existing unpub­lished information and should be presented in a manner that will be of interest to serious amateur and professional field ornithologists. Papers presented at other conferences will be considered provided that the material has not already been published. Talks relating to the following themes are solicited: * Status, distribution, migration, and population dynamics of birds * Systematics and biogeography of birds * Ecology, behavior, and evolution of birds * New information on avian field identification problems * Descriptive field identification * Science-based conservation and management of birds * Techniques for field study of birds, including censusing, monitoring, and other methods; and results of studies applying such techniques Research described should apply to birds of the WFO region: western North America (from Alaska through Mexico, and the Great Plains to the Pacific coast) and the eastern Pacific Ocean. All talks should identify study objectives, describe methods and data analysis, pres­ent results, discuss the significance of the research, and propose future research directions. We expect to allot 15 minutes per oral presentation, including 3 minutes for ques­tions and discussion. Dialogue between presenters and audience is a hallmark of WFO meetings. An abstract of your presentation should be submitted electronically to Debbie Van Dooremolen(Debbie.VanDooremolen(AT)snwa.com) no later than 15 June 2008. All queries and submissions must be via e-mail, and all abstracts must be submitted in exactly the following format: YOUR LAST NAME, YOUR FIRST NAME, CO-AUTHOR NAMES (Times, 10-point type, all caps). Title of your talk (Times, 10-point type, bold). Your affiliation and/or sponsoring organization(s), if any, complete mailing address (Times, 10-point type, in italics), e-mail address (Arial, 9-point type). Brief (300-word maximum) summary of the objectives, methods, results, significance, and generality of your study (Times, 10-point type, normal). Submissions should include a brief (60-word maximum) bio for the primary author. For more information about the meeting, visit the WFO web site at www.wfo-cbrc.org. We look forward to seeing you in San Mateo! _________________________________________________________________ More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_instantaccess_042008 BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?Re:_North_America_Field_Guides---How_do_they_rate=3F?= From: =?windows-1252?Q?Steve_Moore?= <steve(AT)BIRDWATCHRADIO.COM> Date: 3 Apr 2008 7:55am Like most of you, I find the various field guides all have their own merits. I do believe the Sibley Guide is just outstanding in several areas...the artwork being first and foremost. However, my emotional attachment is still with the Peterson Guide and it's the only one I take in the field...the rest stay in the car. Plus it fits better in my pocket or slipped in my waistband than any of the other guides. That said...I'd like to mention that the next two programs of my podcast, Birdwatch Radio will focus on RTP and his field guides. My conversation is with Douglas Carlson about his recent biography of Peterson. The next program should be uplinked by Friday. Steve(AT)birdwatchradio.com BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: my bird list from my visit to western kansas/nebraska From: Devorah Bennu <birdologist(AT)yahoo.com> Date: 3 Apr 2008 8:19am hello everyone, i have returned from my trip to kansas/nebraska and thought i'd share my bird list with you. i also have written stories about some of my adventures which can be found on my blog. Life list birds are indicated with an asterix; Snow goose, white and blue phases Canada goose Cackling goose Wood duck Gadwall American Wigeon Mallard Blue-winged teal (plentiful) Northern shoveler Northern Pintail Green-winged teal Canvasback Redhead (only one pair, but they were very close to the road) Ring-necked duck Greater scaup Bufflehead Hooded merganser Red-breasted merganser Ruddy duck Ring-necked pheasant *Greater prairie-chickens dancing on several lek sites in Kansas Wild turkey, many individuals including three males that were actively courting females Common loon, all in their spectacular breeding plumage Pied-billed grebe Eared grebe *American white pelican Double-crested cormorant Great blue heron Great egret Turkey vulture, LOTS! Cooper's hawk Red-tailed hawk Rough-legged hawk American kestrel Merlin American coot Sandhill crane (greater and lesser) Killdeer Greater yellowlegs *Franklin's gull, all in spectacular breeding plumage Bonaparte's gull Ring-billed gull Herring gull Rock dove *Eurasian collared dove Mourning dove Barn owl Barred owl Belted kingfisher Red-bellied woodpecker Downy woodpecker Northern flicker, both the yellow-shafted and red-shafted subspecies, as well as several "orange-shafted" hybrids Loggerhead shrike Blue jay American crow Horned lark Tree swallow Northern rough-winged swallow Tufted titmouse Red-breasted nuthatch Carolina wren *Eastern bluebird American Robin Northern mockingbird European starling Cedar waxwing *American tree sparrow *Vesper sparrow Savannah sparrow Fox sparrow Song sparrow *Harris' sparrow White-crowned sparrow Dark-eyed junco, "slate-colored" subspecies Chestnut-collared longspur Northern cardinal Red-winged blackbird Eastern meadowlark Western meadowlark Yellow-headed blackbird Common grackle Great-tailed grackle Brown-headed cowbird House finch American goldfinch House sparrow 86 species total seen in six days, accompanied by Dave Rintoul, Elizabeth Dodd, or Cuck Otte. Thanks to all of them for showing me a great time and for helping me pick up some lifers, despite my broken arm. i also kept a roadkill list because of the astonishing carnage alongside the roadways; Striped skunk (also seen alive) White-tailed deer (also seen alive) Opossum (only seen dead) Domestic housecat American robin Red-tailed hawk (saw at least three dead birds) Barred owl (saw only one) Great-horned owl (only saw one dead, none alive) Yellow-headed blackbird (saw one) American kestrel Badger (only seen dead) Raccoon (saw several dead ones only) Jack rabbit (saw several dead ones only) Cottontail rabbit (saw this animal alive, too) Fox squirrel GrrlScientist Devorah http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/ Roosting high up a tree somewhere in Central Park, NYC ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Birders in the world From: "Bird Uganda Safaris" <director(AT)birduganda.com> Date: 3 Apr 2008 8:29am Dear All, Recently when I was conducting a Bird Guides Training, I was asked to give an estimate of Bird watchers in world. Is there any one with a figure say for North America, Europe, Australia, or the whole world. The second challenging question was " Is there a birder who has seen all the birds in the world?" . These are challenging questions. Any answer out there? In November when I was in California birding near Sacramento, I met guy with an ipod with all the bird info of birds of America. This is a very fantastic job. I wish I knew him and invited him to East Africa to do one for us. Thank you all Good Birding Herbert On 4/3/08, Steve Moore <steve(AT)birdwatchradio.com> wrote: > Like most of you, I find the various field guides all have their own > merits. I do believe the Sibley Guide is just outstanding in several > areas...the artwork being first and foremost. > > However, my emotional attachment is still with the Peterson Guide and it's > the only one I take in the field...the rest stay in the car. Plus it fits > better in my pocket or slipped in my waistband than any of the other > guides. > > That said...I'd like to mention that the next two programs of my podcast, > Birdwatch Radio will focus on RTP and his field guides. My conversation is > with Douglas Carlson about his recent biography of Peterson. The next > program should be uplinked by Friday. > > Steve(AT)birdwatchradio.com > > BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html > Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html > -- Executive Director Bird Uganda Safaris Ltd 2nd Floor Jos House, Plot 55B, Opp. Fish Factory Telephone +256 312289048 Fax +256 (0)414383031 Cellphone +256(0)772518290/ 777912938 Email. director(AT)birduganda.com web www.birduganda.com BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Field Guides From: "Gorton, Gregg" <Gregg.Gorton(AT)va.gov> Date: 3 Apr 2008 8:48am I'm surprised no one has taken note of Sibley's absolutely superb descriptions of bird vocalizations-definitely the best, by far, in any of the guidebooks out there. RTP tended to focus more on mnemonics, following in the long tradition going back to Burroughs and Thoreau, and those mnemonic phrases definitely have great value for many birders, depending on your learning style when it comes to vocalizations. But Sibley is more in keeping with the modern approach-see, for example, Dan Lane's descriptions of vocalizations in the new Birds of Peru... I highly recommend carrying Sibley in the field for help ID'g an unfamiliar call when you can narrow the choices to a genus or to a few species... Gregg Gorton BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: North America Field Guides---How do they rate? From: "John Beetham" <john.beetham(AT)gmail.com> Date: 3 Apr 2008 9:10am Unlike most of the responders so far, I'm a Sibley partisan. If I carry a guide in the field, it is almost always the Sibley Guide to Eastern North America. His illustrations are much more helpful for making identifications than those in the other guides available. When I'm out birding, I want the quick visual check rather than a wordy one. If I need the help of a text, I can always reference it at home. In May and September I sometimes take the Dunn and Garrett warbler guide as well. I know it is common to recommend Peterson for beginners, but my experience was somewhat different. I only made the leap from casually interested beginner level to birder after I got my hands on a Sibley guide and could identify more birds more accurately. John Beetham Highland Park, NJ On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Jim Turner <havivoca(AT)yahoo.com> wrote: > Which is your favorite field guide, and why? I'd like t see some opinions > on the well-known field guides to North American birds. If you feel > ambitious, list the plusses and nimuses of each one, Most of you have also > used field guides from other continents, either in the armchair or in the > field How do NA field guides compare with those of other regions? > > ================= > Jim Turner > Victoria, Texas > havivoca(AT)yahoo.com > > > --------------------------------- > Like movies? Here's a limited-time offer: Blockbuster Total Access for one > month at no cost. > > BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html > Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html > BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?Re:_Birders_in_the_world?= From: "=?windows-1252?Q?Richard_H._Payne_(rhp_AT_shsu.edu)?=" <rhp(AT)SHSU.EDU> Date: 3 Apr 2008 9:12am Herbert’s question about numbers is one that we’ve been wrestling with for years. In my case, more than 20 years. The answer really depends on how you ask the question and what you need to do with the answer. While I really can’t speak to the world figures, the US numbers are interesting in and of themselves. (Warning: I will over-simplify this in the interest of considerable brevity.) The National Survey of Recreation and the Environment done under the auspices of the US Forest Service asks simply whether people look at birds. NSRE finds 81.8 million people who look at birds. The US Fish and Wildlife Service study asks if people looked at birds while away from home, and that obviously covers a wide range of looking. They come up with 47.7 million. They also ask if the primary purpose in leaving home was to look at birds, which still covers a wide range of activity. The numbers for that question show 20 million “primary purpose birders.” In the 2001 FWS survey, respondents were asked whether they kept a list. 2.3 million people said they did. Many of my birding friends have argued about these numbers through every iteration of the surveys. However, their arguments are invariably misdirected, because they really want to argue about the definition of a “real birder.” And that is an unending and unwinnable argument. What the surveys are essentially telling us is the number of people who find their way to nature through birding. That’s very important from a public policy standpoint. Having looked at the designs of the survey’s, I am very comfortable with what they produce. The margins of error are quite small and the levels of confidence are quite high. From a statistical analysis standpoint, the projects are solid. So, there are a lot of birders out there and, obviously, they are of different levels of skill and avidity. However, the economic impact of our recreation is huge, but that’s another topic for another time. Dick Payne Colorado Springs, CO BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Field Guides From: "Peter Burke" <peterburke(AT)gmail.com> Date: 3 Apr 2008 9:24am On the topic of Field Guides & vocalizations: descriptions & mnemonics are both "classical" approaches. I carry an ipod loaded with 800+ field recordings (plug: www.birdjam.com) in the field and especially when I travel. I recently used this to confirm what I was hearing were Common Pauraque (Laguna Vista, TX) and to tune my ear for Golden-cheeked Warbler in Austin, TX) for two good examples. I find the recordings to be extremely useful for learning, but also to confirm what I think I know...particularly call notes, etc. Good birding, Peter Peapack, NJ On 4/3/08, Gorton, Gregg <Gregg.Gorton(AT)va.gov> wrote: > > I'm surprised no one has taken note of Sibley's absolutely superb > descriptions of bird vocalizations-definitely the best, by far, in any > of the guidebooks out there. RTP tended to focus more on mnemonics, > following in the long tradition going back to Burroughs and Thoreau, and > those mnemonic phrases definitely have great value for many birders, > depending on your learning style when it comes to vocalizations. But > Sibley is more in keeping with the modern approach-see, for example, Dan > Lane's descriptions of vocalizations in the new Birds of Peru... I > highly recommend carrying Sibley in the field for help ID'g an > unfamiliar call when you can narrow the choices to a genus or to a few > species... > > > > Gregg Gorton > > > BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html > Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html > BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re:RTP is best for beginners From: Dendroica(AT)aol.com Date: 3 Apr 2008 9:51am In a message dated 4/2/2008 8:50:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, awells(AT)NRCM.ORG writes: For the beginner, nothing compares to the old RTP guides I also recommend the Peterson Eastern Guide for eastern area beginners. It also is pocket-size friendly. I keep the big Sibley in my automobile library along with Dunn/Garrett's Warblers both of which I find can unscramble most of the most confusing fall warblers I encounter. Finally, I am so impressed with the National Geo's fifth edition that I keep it in pristine condition in my den, and rely on the prior edition in field. Ralph Wall Great Falls, VA **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: James Coe's Golden Guide for Beginners From: "Matthew Medler" <mattmedler(AT)borealbirds.org> Date: 3 Apr 2008 10:08am I've been loosely following the recent field guide discussion, but didn't notice any messages that mentioned James Coe's Golden Guide to Eastern Birds: http://www.jamescoe.com/fieldGuides.html I haven't seen one in a while, but from what I remember of it, I thought it was a very good guide for beginner birders. I liked the artwork, and I appreciated the fact that it was selective in what species it did and didn't show (excluding or de-emphasizing rare birds to eliminate confusion for beginners). When non-birding friends would ask about field guides, I would either recommend this guide to them or get one for them as a gift (I remember it being quite affordable). It's been a few years since I've purchased one. Does anybody know if this guide is still available? Matt Medler Niskayuna, NY BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?field_guides?= From: =?windows-1252?Q?Rob_Rachlin?= <robrachlin(AT)HOTMAIL.COM> Date: 3 Apr 2008 11:29am For beginners, the book that got me started, and one I invariably recommend, is the Birds of (State) by Stan Tekiela. It's really designed for beginners, in that its limited to the birds most likely to be seen in the area, and it's arranged by color and within color, by size. You don't need to have any idea what kind of bird you're looking at to be able to find it in the book, and the photos are very well-chosen to make most routine IDs very easy. And, in the back, it has a small, local, non- initmidating checklist, which was my personal downfall. (I bought the book to identify three birds I saw in my back yard, and look what's happened to me now!) Of course, I outgrew the book very quickly, but if I'd started with something more comprehensive, I don't know that I would have gotten as far as I did as quickly as I did. Tekiela's books are also available with CDs of the birds' songs, arranged in the same order as in the book. Anyone just getting started, but especially children, will find this series to be a great resource. (And, of course, I have no connection, financial or otherwise, with the writer or publisher of the book.) ps: In the field, I mostly use my National Geographic Handheld Birds on a Palm PDA, supplemented by Sibley East. Rob Rachlin Greensboro, NC BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Field Guides From: John Walters <john-walters(AT)cox.net> Date: 3 Apr 2008 11:35am Gregg Gorton wrote: >I'm surprised no one has taken note of Sibley's absolutely superb >descriptions of bird vocalizations-definitely the best, by far, in any >of the guidebooks out there. > Birders are as idiosyncratic about their field guides as they are about their binoculars. For me, this is the one failing in Sibley's otherwise superb guide--the descriptions do absolutely nothing for me, although they evidently work for other birders. FWIW, I belong to the "leave the field guide at home" school unless I'm in an area I know nothing about--was fumbling constantly with my Pizzey & Doyle while in Australia many years ago. It forces me to remember field marks (I occasionally take notes in really confusing situations). My life list is in the margins of my National Geographic guide (still using 2nd edition), but I've primarily relied on Sibley since it first appeared. John Walters Bonita, CA BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Illustrating the experience From: "Guttman,Burton" <GuttmanB(AT)evergreen.edu> Date: 3 Apr 2008 2:54pm I want to pick this thread up because it opens up an aspect of birding -- of generally enjoying nature -- that we may ignore too easily in our quest to see a lot of new birds, to identify every bird surely, and other activities that seem to be typical of birding these days. Here are a couple of previous quotes: Brenda wrote "...observe, observe, observe! I take notes or draw...". Seems like a romantic notion - exploring some old growth and creating charming drawings of the experience - bring a bit of it back with you to remember and share. But I'm not so jaded to think that's not a great idea - if only I could draw handedly. The problem with paper drawings is that it may take a lifetime to develop the artistic skill. And who would want to interrupt the birding experience to make a detailed drawing even if they had the ability? And someone else complained about "not being able to draw." Well, my first point is that people commonly complain that they just can't draw, and yet it is quite easy to learn to draw well. Get a copy of Betty Edwards's book Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, which I understand is out of print but can certainly be found in used- book stores or on line. I've used the book with students, and while I haven't had time to go all the way through the course myself and acquire the ability I would like to have, Edwards really shows how to develop the ability with quite simple and enjoyable lessons. My second point is that there is an artistic and naturalistic tradition of combining the nature notebook with drawings. I have at least two books in this tradition: The Undercliff, by Elaine Franks (Little, Brown, 1989, or Bulfinch Press, London) and Janet Marsh's Nature Diary (Michael Joseph, London, 1979). They are charming books that present notes on nature adventures with beautiful drawings and paintings of what the authors have seen on their nature rambles. The quotation from Brenda above, about observing, raises the point that the pencil is an excellent eye, and that capturing something in a drawing, even a clumsy drawing, forces one to see accurately. And this leads to my third point: that experiencing nature by observing, making notes, and drawing forces you to slow down and to actually enjoy the experience. Among the most treasured books in my library are books that I grew up with, written by naturalists such as Edwin Way Teale, Donald Culross Peattie, Sally Carrighar, Aldo Leopold, and John Kieran, recording their nature adventures. The very title of one of Peattie's books (I think -- I don't own a copy), Days Without Time, conveys the essence of the idea. Slooooooooooww dooooowwwnnn. Instead of continuing to live in the insane rush that our society seems to impose on us, use birding, butterflying, and other adventures in nature to escape from the insanity. Forget about time. Go off and lose yourself somewhere, in the same way that many of us -- maybe only those who are older, not you young sprouts -- used to do when we were kids, just learning to observe and enjoy the world. For a long time when I was a kid, I didn't own a pair of binoculars; we were too poor to afford them. But I went off by myself into the quiet woods and I observed birds, close at hand. When I was a little kid, about as tall as the tall weeds in the empty lots (are there any empty lots today?), I got lost among the weeds, looking closely at the insects and the flowers. Has birding become such a high-pressure insane activity for most birders that this has become impossible? I hope not. Cheers to all, Burt Burt Guttman The Evergreen State College Olympia, WA 98505 guttmanb(AT)evergreen.edu <mailto:guttmanb(AT)evergreen.edu> Home: 7334 Holmes Island Road S. E., Olympia, 98503 BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Fwd: ESPN.com: Hawk attacks schoolgirl taking tour of Fenway Park From: Katharine Mills <gkmills(AT)charter.net> Date: 3 Apr 2008 6:23pm It appears that the Department of Fish and Wildlife made the decision to remove the nest after two incidences in two days. Here is the link to the article in the Boston Globe. http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/04/hawk_nest_remov.html Kathy Mills Holden, MA gkmills(AT)charter.net Jennifer Rycenga wrote: > I guess the Red Sox have a multi-pronged offense this year. Does > anyone know more about the decision by the wildlife officials to > remove the bird and its nest? > > Jennifer Rycenga > Half Moon Bay, CA > >> >> Subject: ESPN.com: Hawk attacks schoolgirl taking tour of Fenway Park >> >> >> >> Jennifer >> jrycenga(AT)earthlink.net >> >> The "Hawk attacks schoolgirl taking tour of Fenway Park" story is >> located at http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3328114 >> > > BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html > Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html > > BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Fwd: ESPN.com: Hawk attacks schoolgirl taking tour of Fenway Park From: Jennifer Rycenga <gyrrlfalcon(AT)earthlink.net> Date: 3 Apr 2008 6:16pm I guess the Red Sox have a multi-pronged offense this year. Does anyone know more about the decision by the wildlife officials to remove the bird and its nest? Jennifer Rycenga Half Moon Bay, CA > > Subject: ESPN.com: Hawk attacks schoolgirl taking tour of Fenway Park > > > > Jennifer > jrycenga(AT)earthlink.net > > The "Hawk attacks schoolgirl taking tour of Fenway Park" story is > located at http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3328114 > BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: ESPN.com: Hawk attacks schoolgirl taking tour of Fenway Park From: John MacArthur <jmac(AT)sover.net> Date: 3 Apr 2008 6:31pm On Apr 3, 2008, at 9:16 PM, Jennifer Rycenga wrote: > I guess the Red Sox have a multi-pronged offense this year. Does > anyone know more about the decision by the wildlife officials to > remove the bird and its nest? > > Jennifer Rycenga > Half Moon Bay, CA > >> >> Subject: ESPN.com: Hawk attacks schoolgirl taking tour of Fenway Park >> >> >> >> Jennifer >> jrycenga(AT)earthlink.net >> >> The "Hawk attacks schoolgirl taking tour of Fenway Park" story is >> located at http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3328114 >> > > BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html > Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Fwd: ESPN.com: Hawk attacks schoolgirl taking tour of Fenway Park From: "Marcy S Gamber" <marcystefanie(AT)cox.net> Date: 3 Apr 2008 6:59pm Here is a link to a story I just read online at the Boston Globe: http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/04/hawk_nest_remov.html?p1=Well_MostPop_Emailed6 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Rycenga" <gyrrlfalcon(AT)EARTHLINK.NET> To: <BIRDCHAT(AT)LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 6:16 PM Subject: [BIRDCHAT] Fwd: ESPN.com: Hawk attacks schoolgirl taking tour of Fenway Park >I guess the Red Sox have a multi-pronged offense this year. Does anyone >know more about the decision by the wildlife officials to remove the bird >and its nest? > > Jennifer Rycenga > Half Moon Bay, CA > >> >> Subject: ESPN.com: Hawk attacks schoolgirl taking tour of Fenway Park >> >> >> >> Jennifer >> jrycenga(AT)earthlink.net >> >> The "Hawk attacks schoolgirl taking tour of Fenway Park" story is >> located at http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3328114 >> > > BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html > Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html

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